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Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by pwdisswordfishq »

magixx wrote: post #29
jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Portal was pretty good and an originalish product

Valve is a different company.

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Post by lend000 »

test6554 wrote: post #44
jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Back in the day... 2004-2005 facebook was amazing. Spread like wildfire, and lots of fun to use. Just you and your college friends, and their friends.

Even the original idea (if The Social Network is a trustworthy source) was copied -- Zuckerberg just has a complete lack of vision, but is clearly an intelligent operator with good business sense. Jagged intelligence, like an LLM.

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Post by zx8080 »

jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Meta is a golden jail for one teenager who cannot grow up no matter what he does. Shame.

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

pwdisswordfishq wrote: post #51
magixx wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Portal was pretty good and an originalish product

Valve is a different company.

Meta's Portal is different from Valve's Portal.

https://www.meta.com/ca/portal/

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Post by dxxmxnd »

jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Binning applications for working at Meta seems hilarious and over the top. The ‘thoughtful’ labs are vacuuming up everyone’s chat logs and prompts to train the next model as well.

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

EagnaIonat wrote: post #47
ldng wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me guess, because you, yourself, are not an employee so you don't mind because it does not apply to you ?

It's been a fact of life for as long as I can remember. If you using the companies resources, they are well within their rights to monitor what you are doing. Just don't use the company stuff and you are fine.

I agree with you. But do you remember when we could chat with a colleague about how much of a doofus our boss was without worrying that some automated system would possibly notify the boss about it? Nowadays big brother is always watching.

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

TZubiri wrote: post #34

I'll be the contrarian here. I think the program was legal and morally fine. Take into account that these are corporate computers, and the tracking is of work that the company is paying for, so the telemetry, which is highly valuable for analysis and automation, is rightfully theirs. I also don't think that the purpose of the move was to manage workers and see if they slack off, it was to gather training data, but ev…

Nope. Nope nope nope NOPE. No part of this is remotely reasonable. Stop normalising mass surveillance. It is not okay. Not even your own employees, to this degree. Employees are humans too (maybe not the ones at Meta, but I'm speaking in general). Just because somebody is receiving a paycheck for something does not make them fair game for anything and everything to be done to them.

> there's a foreman watching the employees output, and the machine operators have their actions logged so that the machines can be automated in the future. Doesn't it sound reasonable? Is this very different at all?

Yes. Every time these analogies to normalise mass surveillance are brought up, they mistake "another human or two can see you doing something in real time" with "a permanent record of every single action you ever take in your entire life, micromanaged down to the millisecond, accessible to many people over a period of years". That is, in fact, very different at all.

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