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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by hashstring »

> Between October 7, 2023 and October 7, 2025, at least 20,179 children were killed, around 30% of the overall death toll.

> A rebuttal shared by Israel's mission in Geneva said Israel "consistently strives to minimize harm to children even in situations of conflict".

Well, it is certainly no question that Israel is killing children en masse.

Israeli officials are saying “but we are trying to minimize”. Well, these attempts clearly failed given 20,179 fatal cases, and let’s also consider all physically injured and traumatized children.

Still, as of today, Israel is killing a child per day in Gaza [1].

So either it is complete incompetence of Israels warfare methods, or it is done on purpose. No matter how you try to frame it, package it: this is not right and Israel should be sanctioned internationally.

Fundamentalists rule this nation. Sanction them, no weapon exports and their actions are not aligned with their official rhetoric.

Also, October 7, October 7, October 7. Yes, horrible, but at what point does the consensus become that October 7 starts to look like a small event in light of the death toll on the other side?

Spoiler: we should be way beyond that. Over 97% of all total casualties are on the Palestinian side [2].

Sanction Israel.

[1] https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/geneva-palais-briefing... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by gershy »

clydethefrog wrote: post #184
gershy wrote: post #153

I was trying to pay attention to the actual claim and I got: 1. Children died during the ceasefire 2. Israel is using larger bomb payloads than it should (according to who?) in civilian areas 3. Higher percentage of child deaths than in earlier conflicts Still, for me, doesn't add up to "Israel deliberately targetted gaza children" - is the claim that this is systemic? Or rampant? Or just by some individuals? And how…

The European Press Prize this year went to "What the wounds are telling us", an investigation into the wounds of Palestinian dead children. I recommend you read it. https://www.europeanpressprize.com/article/what-the-wounds-a...

I am interested to know the overall scale at which this is happening. Disturbing but illuminating, thanks for the link!

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by gershy »

gershy wrote: post #192
clydethefrog wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The European Press Prize this year went to "What the wounds are telling us", an investigation into the wounds of Palestinian dead children. I recommend you read it. https://www.europeanpressprize.com/article/what-the-wounds-a...

I am interested to know the overall scale at which this is happening. Disturbing but illuminating, thanks for the link!

I'm digging into this a bit. Looks like the 114 figure (certainly a conservative number) occurred early in the conflict, in the period of late Oct 2023 until March 2024 - in the same time the hamas health ministry reported ~25000 casualties; the deliberately targeted children account for ~0.4% of all the casualties, and ~1.5% of all child casualties. Enough to say "Israel is deliberately targeting"?

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by olelele »

hashstring wrote: post #191

> Between October 7, 2023 and October 7, 2025, at least 20,179 children were killed, around 30% of the overall death toll. > A rebuttal shared by Israel's mission in Geneva said Israel "consistently strives to minimize harm to children even in situations of conflict". Well, it is certainly no question that Israel is killing children en masse. Israeli officials are saying “but we are trying to minimize”. Well, these a…

Thank you for stating the case better than I ever could.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by bigyabai »

hknceykbx wrote: post #151
xg15 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and that seems to be the rationale of western politicians as well, essentially, "we have to protect Israel to protect the Jewish people, without it, the Holocaust would risk repeating" That makes sense as a "subjective experience" (if there is something like the subjective experience of a people), but it fails the reality check for me. Yes, Israel is the center of Jewish life today (New York coming next apparent…

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Israel has conscription laws that require all Jews participate in the IDF. It's one of the only places on Earth where a pacifist Jew would be forcibly made to participate in lethal conflict.

There are thousands of other, safer places that a Jew (or anyone, for that matter) could choose to live. As evidenced by the lack of Iron Dome in New Jersey.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by SanjayMehta »

lovich wrote: post #162
SanjayMehta wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UN is stuck in 1945. The UNSC needs to throw out the UK, France, and bring in Brazil, India, South Africa and Germany. And this veto nonsense needs to go away.

I sort of see your logic other than South Africa. Why would you drop two nuclear powers who have some means of force projection for a middling economy and military?

British nukes are a joke, they're controlled by the US. Maybe France can stay.

If not South Africa, who from Africa? Egypt? Nigeria?

The current composition of the UNSC is just ridiculous.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by SanjayMehta »

cicko wrote: post #41
SanjayMehta wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UN is stuck in 1945. The UNSC needs to throw out the UK, France, and bring in Brazil, India, South Africa and Germany. And this veto nonsense needs to go away.

And how do you suggest they do that?

By defunding the UN until it falls apart and is rebuilt from scratch. Right now it's a dysfunctional joke. As are most "international" bodies created just after 1945. "Rules based order" when it suits you, "preemptive strikes" when it doesn't.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by erg0s4m »

ebbi wrote: post #132
pvaldes wrote: post #105

Were are the UN sanctions on Israel? Still none? UN can go f*k themselves then. Needing so many years to get the courage to say the world genocide, where everybody had seen for years Israel turning little children into little flesh chunks, slowly unfurl in horrid technicolor in world TV, is just another part of the problem. UN is useless.

At this point, we're all useless. The circumstances of little Hind Rajab's death plays on my mind every single day, and haunts me. The fact something as brazen and blatant as that could happen, and the world did nothing. Truly a stain on our generation.

What about the death of the bibas children who were tortured to death by Hamas? There is plenty of bad on both sides.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by borolaj »

The under-18 population in the Gaza strip is roughly 47% (according to PCBS). So if deaths fell randomly across the population, children would be ~47% of the dead. They are ~30%. Also the numbers pipeline again runs through Hamas and there is the fact that the UN Council has passed more condemnatory resolutions on Israel than on any other single state (more than Syria, Myanmar, Yemen etc). I am surprised I don't see more nuance on HN.
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