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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#61

This is an updated terms of service, but they've had ID verification for certain accounts and situations for months. Here is the Wayback Machine archive from April of their identity verification help page: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... Here's a random Reddit thread from 2 months ago about them rolling out identity verification: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1smr9vs/claud…

A consistent effort to introduce age and identity checks sounds even worse.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#62

Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Seems like US wants to get ahead on this and be #1 Also Sam Altman will love this idea, because he already tried it with Worldcoin

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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either way I don't think this will end well for humanity.

How could it not? I get the whole fear of AI making robots and going anti-human, but after using the tech for a few months now that seems too absurd.

There are two rationale objections, I think...

One is the potential for skill rot where AI grows a heavy dependence in new employees and once the real price per token cost is settled on and discoverable (post massive IPOs and probably a while post - not immediately after) we, as a society, are left with a bunch of people dependent on a deeply inefficient technology to maintain software we now view as vital that might severely impede our ability to actually deal with climate change (press X to doubt Bezos).

The second is that the psychological damage of interacting with models in a social context during your formative years is deeply damaging and we've essentially destroyed the ability for a generation or two to actually interact as productive members of society.

Addressing the second issue doesn't necessarily exclude our ability to leverage models for business productivity but it seems unlikely to happen in the current climate without that also happening. I am hesitant to believe in a sudden outbreak of common sense at this point. The first point, could really be a systems collapse trigger - we can argue about the likelihood but denying it as a possibility is excessively naive.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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That's fine, I already cancelled my subscription after they admitted to using PEFT to selectively and silently make their models dumber when working in certain technical fields. [ref: section 1.5 of Mythos/Fable 5 system card, https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3... ] Maybe that was petty, but I was already looking for alternatives after the obvious angling for increased regulation and suppres…

Can you please elaborate?

Probably this stuff which caused backlash:

https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-responds-to-backlash-o...

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#65

This is an updated terms of service, but they've had ID verification for certain accounts and situations for months. Here is the Wayback Machine archive from April of their identity verification help page: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... Here's a random Reddit thread from 2 months ago about them rolling out identity verification: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1smr9vs/claud…

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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#67

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

I’m curious (and please forgive my ignorance if it’s obvious), are open weight models practically feasible? I mean from a financial and sustainability standpoint, assuming they’re equally powerful as their proprietary counterparts. I guess I’m trying to understand the economics of it.

If attractive, cloud providers could develop open models with their own investment, and sell hosted access as a business model. While Google checks these boxes, I haven't seen a Google much marketing focus upon their open models (Gemma) coupled with hosting. groq could conceivably train its own models, but groq's business model hosts open models (GPT OSS, Qwen 3, Llama 4 are currently their prominently advertised models on their site... which seems out of date to me) trained by other organizations.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit cards don't validate age. I set my kids up with authorized user cards when they started going out with friends.

neither does my face but that isn't stopping them, so what exactly are we doing here

Isn't the face scan intended to validate your passport, which you show, and does demonstrate age and identity?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#69

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

I have a home server that runs Qwen3.6-35B-A3B through llama.cpp with Open WebUI for the user facing interface. My teen isn't super interested in AI, but whenever they do feel curious they have their own account they can use on our home network. As far as chatting goes local models are more than capable for handling standard chat questions, doing research, helping troubleshoot problems etc. In fact it was an agent po…

What is an "ephemeral" model in this context?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

#70

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

I’m curious (and please forgive my ignorance if it’s obvious), are open weight models practically feasible? I mean from a financial and sustainability standpoint, assuming they’re equally powerful as their proprietary counterparts. I guess I’m trying to understand the economics of it.

Sort of. A full trillion-parameter model needs about $300k of server hardware to run in and a lot of electricity, making it feasible only for very wealthy individuals, but quite practical for businesses and institutions above a certain size...although they in turn would typically gatekeep access.

You can drastically reduce the requirements by running models at a lower bitrate, which somewhat reduces accuracy but not that much - think of the difference between an MP3 vs uncompressed audio. With this and other tricks, you can get high end models down to a size where they can be run on a high spec desktop workstation affordable by an individual or small business.

Obviously I'm heavily oversimplifying here. I think a useful parallel is to consider situations from the past where you would once have required corporate budgets equivalent to the price of a house to run a large database, but over time it became accessible to anyone with the requisite expertise and relatively affordable hardware.

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