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Steam Machine launches today

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Post by bigtex »

bigtex wrote: post #643

For reference to the current prices of consoles: Nintendo Switch 2 $449.99 Xbox Series S (512GB/1TB) $379.99 – $449.99 Xbox Series X (1TB) $649.99 PlayStation 5 Slim (Digital) $599.99 PlayStation 5 Slim (Disc) $649.99 PlayStation 5 Pro $899.99 From reading posts on X/Twitter, I got the feeling that PC Gaming enthusiasts truly believed this was going to compete with console gaming and those players would flock to the…

Also, many popular online multiplayer games, like Call of Duty, will not work with SteamOS

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Post by deathlock »

ricardobayes wrote: post #854
Lucasoato wrote: post #684

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

Still, how does a PS5 cost half, and arguably, has better/fast hardware? I can't imagine Sony selling them at a loss.

From the FAQs:

> Is this the Valve console? > > We think of Steam Machine as an extension of PC gaming, not as a console. > > The traditional console model is to sell hardware at a loss and make up the revenue with subscription services or by selling games that are locked-in to the hardware. We think this can make sense for a single business in the short term but that open ecosystems are better for customers over the long term. PC gaming's history proves this: The openness of the PC gaming space has enabled it to be the primary driver of hardware and software innovation for decades. > > The strength of PC gaming is the ability to play the games you want on the hardware you want. Steam Machine is a solution to these problems (and we think it's a great one), but it's not the only solution, and we don't want it to be.

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Post by kats »

pseudosavant wrote: post #72

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

But a person can't really use their PS5 as a home PC.

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Post by mikelevins »

swinglock wrote: post #888
mikelevins wrote: post #886

I was interested in the Steam machine, but I might not get one because I cannot log in to my Steam account, for no reason that I know. Steam's web-based process for resetting my password always gets stuck after successful completion of the captcha, regardless of which device or OS I use to do it, the accessible-to-Google procedures for getting past that blockage have not worked, and the email address that one could o…

Steam Support can probably get it sorted.

Probably, if I could contact them. But all the links I turned up lead me back to the captcha black hole, and the only email address I've found elicits a reply telling me that nobody is reading it. Perhaps something is reachable through additional effort, but I'm not particularly motivated to keep searching further. Perhaps someone there reads HN and would like to know this happened to someone, in case they want to fix it (for someone else's benefit if not for mine).

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Post by [deleted] »

pseudosavant wrote: post #700

I think this put this all in perspective for me. If Microsoft came out with this exact hardware (with Windows but still open and you could load SteamOS on it), at this price point, people mock Microsoft to death about how this product is a joke.

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Post by solid_fuel »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #241
ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why the frame will be the most interesting to the people on HN. A VR PC you can do whatever u want with.

You can install whatever apk you want on your Oculus Quest.

My quest is currently sitting in a drawer because it refuses to play the games I already bought unless I "verify" my "meta account" - which they demanded I create in order to use the oculus locally - by uploading my drivers license. Which I, of course, refuse to do.

Last I checked you needed either a developer account or a jailbreak to load "whatever apk you want" onto the quest, and there didn't seem to be any jailbreaks around.

If this state of things has changed, please do share! I would love to be able to actually use the hardware I already paid for.

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Post by _jas »

robmccoll wrote: post #32

For reference, a PlayStation 5 is $600-650 for the base models (lower performance than Steam Machine) and $900 for the Pro model (likely higher performance). I know this is a PC and thus an open platform, but for most buyers in living room gaming, that's the competition. I don't think this will reach mass market success, but I'm not sure that was the goal. Who are they selling to? Note: I ask as someone with a Steamd…

Curious as I’ve been thinking about doing the same, what are you running on your Linux box for your TV? You have to deal with family and little kids too?

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Post by DSMan195276 »

DiskoHexyl wrote: post #901

For the inevitable minisforum machines comparisons - it's not as bad for Valve as it seems. You can't just add a dedicated GPU to a cheap miniPC with an integrated graphics- power delivery and airflow will have to be different, and you may be surprised to find out that even the cheapest mini PCs with dedicated graphics aren't significantly cheaper than a Steam machine (if at all). And then my personal experience with…

For me the problem is that the target performance is in a weird spot - low enough that it's not amazing, but high enough to still be very expensive if you don't plan to play games that actually require that performance.

A cheap $300 mini-PC is a lot weaker but it can still play plenty of indie and other games just fine, ultimately that's what matters. For me, I would have considered buying one of these if they had one at a $300 to $400 price point even though it would have been significantly weaker, but at $1k it's just impossible for me to justify.

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Post by ectospheno »

branon wrote: post #428

I respect what Valve is doing here and I loved the Steam Deck but a prebuilt desktop PC with 16 GB system memory and 512 GB storage for $1,000+ is insulting. Those are specs that belong on a laptop or a lowend console offering like the Series S. I think this product is going to be hamstrung by its attempts to present as a midpoint between a PC and a console. The way this is being achieved seems to be by selling a dev…

I have no interest in maintaining a gaming PC but want to play indie games that don’t launch on console. I also have money. I’ve been considering it.
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