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Steam Machine launches today

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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by TiredOfLife »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #833

I know many people keep pointing at PS5 as the competition, but I'll throw this in: I can buy a game on PC and play it on the go, I don't have to buy anything else. The Steam Deck+a PC places Steam in a different league than the PS5 (for now). Nintendo Switch 2 is way closer, however the games are different (I don't love Nintendo games). Finally for those of us with a big Steam library and kids, buying a Steam machin…

> The Steam Deck+a PC places Steam in a different league than the PS5 (for now).

It places it in same league as PS Portal and PS5

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #93

This is a weird thing to call out, when there's so much else to talk about (price, specs, etc) buuuuuut- Check out the gameplay video partway down the page, where the two people are on the couch playing Cuphead. Right under "Your Steam library in more places." It's just... a real clip of real people playing a real game and reacting in a real way. It's funny. I know it's stupid to call out, but how many exaggerated ve…

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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by ricardobayes »

Lucasoato wrote: post #684

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

Still, how does a PS5 cost half, and arguably, has better/fast hardware? I can't imagine Sony selling them at a loss.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by joe_mamba »

ricardobayes wrote: post #854
Lucasoato wrote: post #684

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

Still, how does a PS5 cost half, and arguably, has better/fast hardware? I can't imagine Sony selling them at a loss.

PS5 has a lot parts in high volumes negotiated years in advance so they can leverage lower prices than valve. Valve ships like 10% max of the volumes that Sony sells.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Aerroon »

fdye wrote: post #616
tmoertel wrote: post #146

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Yeah, this is a promising solution to scalping. Previously, if you had only small numbers of consoles available at launch, scalpers and their bots would claim a large share of them. With Valve's new policy, that share is reduced to s/g , where s is the number of verified Steam accounts controlled by scalpers and g is the number of legit gamer accounts. Since s is likely to be much less than g , s/g is close to zero,…

I've never understood why anti-scalpers just don't work backwards from shipping address. Are these scalpers all really keeping hundreds of actual physical addresses they can receive packages at? Like if you see the limited product has 100 orders going to the same building, or apartment, or whatever then flag it before it goes out. Limit PO Boxes, etc. Sure they can find mules to buy+receive one and then sell to the s…

I feel like to put that much effort into anti-scalping efforts you actually have to have a product that's really valuable. For a lot of products this really isn't the case (like this Steam machine iteration).

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by joe_mamba »

shantara wrote: post #848
giancarlostoro wrote: post #706

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I have a feeling it would have cost drastically less if we didn't have a RAM / storage crisis, which is really sad.

The original price should have been in $700-800 range, pre-RAM and storage pricing escalation, which would have changed the equation drastically. I even considered getting it as a mostly streaming box for a living room, intending to play only the lighter games on device. But for the announced price and after delays, it just doesn't make sense financially. As is, you're grossly overpaying for the level of GPU performa…

>The original price should have been in $700-800 range, pre-RAM and storage pricing escalation

Also on a 2025 launch, but that 2023 mid-level hardware feels already pretty weak in 2026, especially for a console you're supposed to run 6-7 years into the future. Sure, it's as powerful as a base PS5 but that console is already 6 years old by now. So the valve box is a pain to justify jumping in unless you're a big valve fan and don't want to DIY a PC.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by throwaway21233 »

eximius wrote: post #366
throwaway21233 wrote: post #345

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I don't get why companies don't take advantage of the demand. For example: Start the bidding at BASE_PRICE (BP) + 2400. Then reduce the price by $1 every 3mins over the course of 5 days. Until the BP is met and then just carry on queuing. You could buy it early if you want it that much or just wait an extra couple of days and end up in the queue at the BP. I don't know if it would create pressure on that second it ti…

Holy fuck, not everything in this life needs to be profit maximized.

I don't see it really as profit maximising, just allocating it first to the people who want it the most. Like they are willing to pay scalpers.

You can get it at the lower price, you just have to wait. The same happens with loads of digital devices. On release day the price is higher.

If it helps you can separate it and have the first a 'ticket' in line to buy the product for the regular price. You just reserve your spot with the auction. The queue price just drops over time.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #851
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #833

I know many people keep pointing at PS5 as the competition, but I'll throw this in: I can buy a game on PC and play it on the go, I don't have to buy anything else. The Steam Deck+a PC places Steam in a different league than the PS5 (for now). Nintendo Switch 2 is way closer, however the games are different (I don't love Nintendo games). Finally for those of us with a big Steam library and kids, buying a Steam machin…

> The Steam Deck+a PC places Steam in a different league than the PS5 (for now). It places it in same league as PS Portal and PS5

No the PlayStation portal streams, there is an enormous difference there.

I can already stream any steam game on any android and iphone out there

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