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Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by Freedumbs »

2ndabdulhamid wrote: post #60
Freedumbs wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To create an OpenRouter account, you have to supply a phone number. Neither Anthropic or OpenAI required this. This prevents privacy aware users from signing up.

Anthropic request ID verification and OpenAI requires phone number in Europe. I don't know about other parts of the world, but I don't see any issues with OpenRouter.

Again, neither Anthropic or OpenAI asked for PII. Only my payment information. Open Router requires a phone to get an account, which is why I'll never have one.

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by grebc »

jasonkester wrote: post #51
grebc wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you’re on vacation what reason is there for your IP to be on a separate continent to the billing address attached to a credit card? From the POV of all the people in the payment processing chain.

Because people move to different countries. There's no way to update the billing address of my US bank to a foreign address. My UK bank is in the address of my house there. My French bank is in the address of my house here. As I said, you get one and only one guess as to how the company in question wants to handle this. I want to buy Minecraft for my kid's birthday. Do I buy it from the US store with my US card becau…

I’d not want to be responsible for the KYC/AML checks on your transactions.

Banks go out of their way for HNW individuals, which it sounds like you are with 3 seperate residences in 3 different countries, I’d check to see if you qualify.

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by subscribed »

tosti wrote: post #47
basisword wrote: post #32

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This is idiotic. It’s like telling someone they should be grateful the electric company has banned them because artificial lighting will mess with their body clock.

Nah, more like banning tobacco because it's addictive and bad for your health.

This is about as misguided as the previous one. It's just nonsensical.

It's more like there were only two notable powertool brands and several small ones, and someone got banned for life from the arguably the leading one.

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by gpjt »

jasonkester wrote: post #45

It's amazing that companies still can't handle the concept of somebody moving to a different country but still using a credit card from their original country. I spent two days on the phone with Microsoft last year trying to find a way to pay them $700 to renew my lapsed Visual Studio subscription. I live in France and want to pay with a US card (or UK card or even a French card at this point), but because of some co…

In the EU, at least one of the problems is regulatory/tax for digital services. They need to charge you the VAT rate for the country where you are based. For that, they need two pieces of evidence about your location. There are various things they can use for that -- telephone number, IP address, card billing address, and so on. If they can collect two that indicate the same country, they're safe -- but if all of them point in different directions then they could get in trouble during a tax audit.

Of course, for larger transactions you'd expect that a human in the loop could work with you to get the right info so that they would be covered. But I guess for Microsoft, their definition of "larger" might be more than a few grand...

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by Hizonner »

Freedumbs wrote: post #59
PinguTS wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All are moving from monthly to usage payments anyway. You use the model you need. You don't need to use always the top tier model for anything. That is your decision. You can use a top tier for planing and then the agents can use cheap Chinese models. Much more cost effective.

To create an OpenRouter account, you have to supply a phone number. Neither Anthropic or OpenAI required this. This prevents privacy aware users from signing up.

I use OpenRouter all the time on an account for which I never supplied a phone number, email address, or anything of the kind. Maybe that was because I used an Ethereum wallet to authenticate, and paid in cryptocurrency (well, if USDC counts as "cryptocurrency"). Which admittedly makes OpenRouter's nosebleed prices even higher in effect, and supports some organizations I'd really rather not. And it's an oldish account; maybe you couldn't do that today.

In fact, I don't actually use it, but as an experiment I once set up and fooled around with an OpenRouter account over Tor. It did demand an email address, and I gave it a Proton account also set up over Tor. Both were paid for with anonymous cryptocurrency: Monero gatewayed via some random exchanger.

Whereas I never signed up for an Anthropic account because the first screen I hit demanded a phone number. I mean that was the only thing on the screen, and you weren't going anywhere until you provided it. It's been quite a while, though.

Perhaps there are different paths to getting accounts.

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by carlosjobim »

rglullis wrote: post #35
iamphilrae wrote: post #4

I know it’s not ideal, but why not give the main competitor a go? I have great experience of using OpenAI Codex, and frequently switch between it and Claude on a whim, often playing them off against each other to review one another’s PRs.

> why not give the main competitor a go "If Lucifer decided not to take your soul, why not throw yourself at Mammon's feet instead?" We keep asking why society got to such this stage of decay, and I need to keep reminding myself that a lot of it is people who give away so much power to sociopaths in exchange of virtual trinkets .

Rather: If your crush doesn't want to go on a date with you, ask another girl out instead of becoming a stalker.

Re: Ask HN: Anthropic banned me from using Claude Code and I don't know what to do

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Post by Hizonner »

pembrook wrote: post #28

This brings up so many issues imo. I hate the idea of government throwing its weight around based on personal vendettas (in the case of this Fable debacle), so it's clear that if this tech is going to be foundation-level important to the economy going forward, we need some sort of laws guaranteeing our access to it. But authoritarians in government aren't the only party we need to be concerned about. As shown by this…

I don't think such regulation should be restricted to AI. "Google-style B2C blanket bans" routinely ruin people's livelihoods in other ways, including, of course, when Google does it. There are way too many companies nowadays that are way too central to how way too many people live their lives.

If you want to be a piece of critical infrastructure, you need to deal with the implications of that. It's not OK for private entities to be able to "unperson" people in important parts of their lives for what amounts to convenience reasons. If them not being able to do that raises the price of the service, so be it.

Honestly even banks, which are already highly regulated and at least have more nominal competition, still have too much leeway to cut off customers based on error-prone statistical methods, without recourse or explanation.

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