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Will It Mythos?

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Re: Will It Mythos?

#43

In my brief experience, the difference between fable and opus is largely in persistence, not global intelligence like you might expect. Fable just... goes the extra mile, sometimes in a scary way.

You might have found a use case on which both have same capabilities, but this is in general very not true. I’ve had Fable autonomously fix concurrency bugs by itself other models couldn’t even diagnose from logs.

Perhaps it is a lot of small improvements all over the place, but the sum is a step change in capability.

Re: Will It Mythos?

#44
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree. Opus reports to me like a student. Fable reported to me like a colleague (researcher). It genuinely seemed to pick up on nuance that the other models just don't, even when I tell them explicitly. It's been really frustrating that neither Codex nor Opus can make targetted edits to Fable's code without screwing something subtle up. For context, this is for computational geometry work, so your mileage may…

> It's been really frustrating that neither Codex nor Opus can make targetted edits to Fable's code without screwing something subtle up. Reminds me of the old adage: don't try to be too smart when writing code. Otherwise, dumber people - including your future self - will have trouble working with it.

Some problems are very hard to solve with stupid code. This can easily be the case (computational geometry)

Re: Will It Mythos?

#45

Surprise.. someone downplaying Mythos/Fable that didn't actually use it. Plenty of comments here to the contrary, including my own personal experience with Fable was easily a step change in capability over Opus - figuring things out in reverse engineering binaries that Opus plain couldn't find.

Who are you talking about? I don't believe I have downplayed anything? And, I did briefly use Fable. It was excellent for general coding but it was blocked before I could benchmark it. I kinda suspect it would refuse this task, though. I never had access to Mythos.

Re: Will It Mythos?

#47
Gemini / antigravity didn't use to be this hamstrung. Something recently changed within the past couple months that makes doing security work very difficult to do. Even auditing/securing your own code now requires an insane amount of prompt engineering that is utterly ridiculous and did not use to be required.

Re: Will It Mythos?

#50
Fable was able to oneshot pretty big features. In write spec -> refine spec -> create todos -> implement todos workflow difference was far less pronounced vs codex or opus.
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