This is a classic case of "Thing in japan". Yes 'wakaba' mark is cool. But the exact same point can be made about a big red L . Far more ubiquitous. Also there are beautiful medieval crests on British Fire engines. I doubt that purely wordless, symbolic system was truly the ultimate pinnacle of operational clarity.
Japanese symbols that speak without words
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Re: Japanese symbols that speak without words
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The signaler needs to have anticipated it and not signaled until this problem doesn't exist How do you handle an upcoming left turn (assuming right hand driving) during heavy traffic? It's not the responsibility of the car changing lanes to optimize the fuel economy of the cars behind, but it is the responsibility of the cars behind to not needlessly impede other drivers from getting where they need to go. > When t…
> How do you handle an upcoming left turn (assuming right hand driving) during heavy traffic? If I am in the middle lane (lane 2), and I realize I need to get into the leftmost lane (lane 1) to make a turn, but lane 1 is too full for me to simply move into it without affecting others, then I would have no choice but to cut someone off. I would minimize the effect in two ways: by trying to cut off whoever has left the…
...you could just miss your turn, instead of cutting someone off?
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#73I don't see anything particularly special about these symbols. Don't get me wrong, I like Japan but while these icons look nice, don't most symbols already speak without words?
I always find it interesting to learn about symbols or iconography that a culture takes for granted that would be unknown or even invisible to an outsider. Japanese heraldry is particularly captivating because of its apparent influence on corporate logo design of the 1960s. Between mon and traditional Japanese architecture, it’s eye-opening to see parallels between post-war American modernism and millennia of Japanes…
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The article is decent, but the headline is saying something demonstrably false - evidenced by the article itself. Not one of the symbols can possibly be understood as to its intended meaning without learning what the symbol represents - that is to say, simply by looking at any of them in no way whatsoever suggests, hints, or shows their meaning in the appropriate context.
japan glazing imho and i love kamon (family crests). you could have written this article about almost any country.
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#75This is a classic case of "Thing in japan". Yes 'wakaba' mark is cool. But the exact same point can be made about a big red L . Far more ubiquitous. Also there are beautiful medieval crests on British Fire engines. I doubt that purely wordless, symbolic system was truly the ultimate pinnacle of operational clarity.
I've never heard of a big red L but I've known about the Japanese new-driver icon for decades.
In fact most of the symbols talked about in the article seemed of no meaning to me except looking unique and different and sometimes even nice.
Re: Japanese symbols that speak without words
#76I don't see anything particularly special about these symbols. Don't get me wrong, I like Japan but while these icons look nice, don't most symbols already speak without words?
I always find it interesting to learn about symbols or iconography that a culture takes for granted that would be unknown or even invisible to an outsider. Japanese heraldry is particularly captivating because of its apparent influence on corporate logo design of the 1960s. Between mon and traditional Japanese architecture, it’s eye-opening to see parallels between post-war American modernism and millennia of Japanes…
I simply will not stand for this notjosh erasure!
(potentially the greatest contribution I'll ever make to human culture. not sure how I feel about that, now that I think about it)
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#77The common theme for the discussed symbols is consideration for others. In New Zealand we require a yellow [L] sign on cars with learner drivers (with learners drivers licenses). However I get the impression that other drivers are less considerate around a car displaying the [L] sign. I suspect New Zealanders are generally far less considerate than Japanese. Politeness avoids a trillion sharp edges. We also seem to b…
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I didn't find that to the case in Australia, as someone who had L's for far longer than is standard. Mostly it meant that people gave you a wide berth, as learner drivers are unpredictable at times. So basically, what the sign intends. It surprises me to hear that about NZ? As I think of NZ, as our friendlier cousin. Just goes to show that our experiences are always hyperlocalised, and it's hard to actually make gene…
Where abouts where you driving in Australia? I've had the same experiences as the parent commenter when learning to drive in Sydney. In general drivers in the bigger cities seem to be very aggressive.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also really strange to me to be prioritizing fuel economy over safety. And anyway, it's more fuel efficient to leave a big enough buffer with the car in front of you so that if they slow down, you can just take your foot off the accelerator to match speed rather than braking. And increase speed again slowly when they speed up (again leaving a healthy gap). For anyone driving a hybrid or EV especially much of those lo…
> Also really strange to me to be prioritizing fuel economy over safety. If I see that someone is actually changing lanes (in terms of lateral position changing within their lane) then of course I would get out of their way, as it would be unsafe not to. But if they're postponing their lane change (despite their signal already being on) because I'm about to be in their way, that's the scenario I'm talking about when…
I think the safest thing - and the most polite - is when they first start to signal, make a determination if you are able to safely give them space by easing off the gas and maybe lightly tapping the brakes (of course you don't want to do any hard braking because that creates a risk of being rear-ended). And if the answer is yes, then let them merge. If you're traveling at a safe speed, leaving a safe distance to the car in front of you, and assuming they signal about the time the car in front of you passes them, this should be doable more often than not.