Walked past a TV and it was advertising a security guard. Why does a TV need security software?
Windows needs antivirus so why wouldn't a TV? Unfortunately there's a lot of placebo software out there.
Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs
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#52Well, that's how data for training LLMs is scraped.
And price comparison sites big companies don't like since they want to price discriminate. There are positives to it.
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#53I'll get on my high horse and say you can get solid "DID/Commercial" TVs for not that much more: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1788343-REG/samsung_q... I got this a few months ago -- 4k, solid brightness, and ok color. Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display. I use it with an apple TV with CEC on the TV -- I turn on the apple tv, TV turns on straight to apple interface. I tu…
>Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display. Why not just get a (presumably subsidized) smart TV instead, and skipping the premium? It'd also be not disconnected from the internet, and despite vague HN/reddit speculation that TVs have cell modems in them, that has yet to be confirmed.
If you do this, connect it to the internet at least once, because most smart TVs ship with missing features that aren't activated until you do a firmware update.
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#54The concept of consent-based privacy has completely failed, first with GDPR then this.
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#55I'll get on my high horse and say you can get solid "DID/Commercial" TVs for not that much more: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1788343-REG/samsung_q... I got this a few months ago -- 4k, solid brightness, and ok color. Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display. I use it with an apple TV with CEC on the TV -- I turn on the apple tv, TV turns on straight to apple interface. I tu…
>Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display. Why not just get a (presumably subsidized) smart TV instead, and skipping the premium? It'd also be not disconnected from the internet, and despite vague HN/reddit speculation that TVs have cell modems in them, that has yet to be confirmed.
I wanted more control and no UI. The commercial ones do that -- I think this was like $150 more than the "samsung smart ui" one... Never seeing a smart TV interface was worth that for me. YMMV.
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#56Walked past a TV and it was advertising a security guard. Why does a TV need security software?
Because most people (HN is not a representative sample set) are not willing to pay the real price of a TV if it wouldn't be subsidized by adtech.
I'm not sure the adtech is even enough to subsidize the price in a meaningful way.
Google’s global ad revenue equates to roughly $61 per user per year, most TV manufacturers would be unable to extract that much out per user, even with crazy levels of tracking, ads, etc.
I haven't used a modern TV in a very long time, but I can't imagine LG is extracting over $20 in ad revenue/data revenue per year. It might move the needle on <$500 displays, but when LG displays costing over $5,000 still have this spyware its hard to defend.
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#57I've always have a deep, instinctive revulsion for smart TVs, but every year I read of some new mandmade horrors beyond comprehension, and it escalates by a few more points.
Coming for PC monitors as well, LG again leading the charge.. see "smart gaming monitor", same BS.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vizio was caught taking screen grabs and sending them to a server a few years ago.
Basically all smart TVs do that. It is how they provide "contextual" features based on the content you're watching, like the names of the actors visible on screen.
Not really. They do it to sell to advertisers what you are watching
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#59What portion of Fox's acquisition thesis for Roku was activating residential proxies (distributed AI crawling!) across all the units?
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#60Good. Fuck Cloudflare and other internet gatekeepers. Confuse their signal as much as possible.
Huh? This is almost assuredly being used for botnets… that’s not a good thing.