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Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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I've always have a deep, instinctive revulsion for smart TVs, but every year I read of some new mandmade horrors beyond comprehension, and it escalates by a few more points.

Same, but for "smart" anything in the home that requires an internet connection and does not let me set it up or run it LAN only.

People forget the reasons TVs got cheaper is because smart TVs are heavily subsidized with ads and your watch data.

I have the most "low tech" home of any of my peers, intentionally.

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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It's not Smart TV apps specifically, it's all free apps. They have to monetize those somehow, don't they? And you get upset when you see ads, don't you? Basically it's either this or pay for your apps.

Not sure if this is ironic, but I know it's possible for apps to exist without being monetized. I'm using Paint.net right now.

Yes it's possible for the apps to exist but not the apps programmers if they can't make money to eat

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? The only thing that's vaguely objectionable is the fact the consent screen's wording of "download public web data from the internet" omits important information on what's actually happening and the associated risks. Otherwise I'm not sure how you can come up with a principled justification of the ban beyond just "AI scrapers bad" or "hiding identity". Tor relays and VPNs are basically doing the same thing, excep…

From the content hosting side (getting reamed by scrapers overloading infrastructure), the problem is that we have to be able to set "reasonable" ratelimits to share finite network uplink and server cpu resources between all of our real users and these scrapers. When you can identify the nature of the traffic (quickly in realtime, based on simple deterministic rules), you can protect the resources: you can rate/concu…

All the arguments you made applies to VPNs or tor as well. I'm sure rightsholders would be very happy if VPNs are banned, because that gets rid of one avenue for pirating with impunity. Same goes with every ad network ever, which has to fight click fraud.

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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Never ever connect your "Smart"-TV to your network, or if you have an incurable impulse to then make sure it's on a firewalled gateway-less VLAN. Take the money you save buying the thing (compared to what a profitable "dumb" version would cost) and buy a surplus corporate mini-workstation system, and slap LibreELEC/Kodi or whatever on it, and use that device as your "smart" device. No good for you can ever come from bringing the TV onto the internet... ever!

(Also: never paypig, never subscribe!)

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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12 minute article. 70% AI. The only content not flagged? Copy and pasted PR comments. Invisible Unicode characters, triads, unnecessary markdown. Good work, obviated by bloviating. Readers dropping off near-instantly. A company leaving a slop trail behind its wake. AI DDOSing should be shameful. https://www.folklore.org/Saving_Lives.html

The page has scroll hijacking, too.

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does raise the question if other Smart TVs with the same third party apps have the same issue.

Vizio was caught taking screen grabs and sending them to a server a few years ago.

Basically all smart TVs do that. It is how they provide "contextual" features based on the content you're watching, like the names of the actors visible on screen.

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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I'll get on my high horse and say you can get solid "DID/Commercial" TVs for not that much more: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1788343-REG/samsung_q...

I got this a few months ago -- 4k, solid brightness, and ok color.

Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display.

I use it with an apple TV with CEC on the TV -- I turn on the apple tv, TV turns on straight to apple interface. I turn off from the apple remote, TV turns off.

It's effectively "an apple TV" -- I'm happy.

Re: Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

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I'll get on my high horse and say you can get solid "DID/Commercial" TVs for not that much more: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1788343-REG/samsung_q... I got this a few months ago -- 4k, solid brightness, and ok color. Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display. I use it with an apple TV with CEC on the TV -- I turn on the apple tv, TV turns on straight to apple interface. I tu…

>Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display.

Why not just get a (presumably subsidized) smart TV instead, and skipping the premium? It'd also be not disconnected from the internet, and despite vague HN/reddit speculation that TVs have cell modems in them, that has yet to be confirmed.

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