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Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:21 PM UTC

ngruhn wrote: post #228

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>A successful case might be Luigi Mangione. Sorry, but how was that murder successful? Did it achieve the effect that everyone is getting cheaper healthcare now? OR, on the contrary, it only achieved that CEOs are now getting more anonymity and private security, while the plebs are getting more invasive law enforcement tracking like Palantir and Flock shoved up their ass to prevent them from doing something like that…

> Sorry, but how was that murder successful? Successful in winning over the public.

Clearly not since members of the public turned him in to the police.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:22 PM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #355

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> What kind of broken logic is this? It's not even slightly broken. It's about the people responsible for destroying the lives of those they're supposed to be helping, instead abusing those people for personal gain. Is that really something you think should keep heading in the same abusive direction it's been going for many years? :(

It seems like people are happy to dish out this rhetoric applied to others but less happy to be on the receiving end. How do you feel volunteer groups rounding up Luigi supporters and gunning them down in the street like dogs? There are a million reasons why we don't want to live in a society where each person tries to solve their political grievances with a gun

>There are a million reasons why we don't want to live in a society where each person tries to solve their political grievances with a gun

You and me are preaching to the quire here and wasting our time. Some on HN they just wanna see rich people get killed, as if that fixes anything that's wrong with society. By rich people, they mean everyone richer than them of course.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Post by 93po » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:22 PM UTC

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This is a very... US comment to make.

There have been cases in the US where homeowners shot cops dead who were in the process of unexpectedly raiding their home, because the homeowner had no idea they were cops and not home invasion robbers; and in some cases have been acquitted of murder charges by juries for this. I'd personally like to see the laws protecting this strengthened, to make sure that cops aren't charging unannounced into peoples' homes and…

My thought on this is that it's basically not legal to protect your home/family with force because of this. It's impossible to know if someone breaking in is a cop or not, and at 3AM with glass breaking and a group of people claiming to be cops, but aren't, how are you supposed to know? You basically never can. So either you risk going to prison for the rest of your life when it's actually a cop, or you do absolutely nothing and let your family get harmed/your home burgled.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:25 PM UTC

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My biggest wish in life would be that every champagne socialist that unironically says "America is a third world country", we just send them to an actual thirld world country like Zimbabwe, Congo, Sudan, Cuba, North Korea and import a genuine refugee from there in their place.

This way we can make two people happy at the same time(three if you include me), and the lottery of birth advantage evens out, so the world becomes more fair and less unequal.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Post by l23k4 » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:26 PM UTC

stefanfisk wrote: post #296

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> They’d basically have to attack you first for lethal force to be legal. They just violently entered his home in an effort to attack him, dressed in a way designed to intimidate. These cops were deliberately cosplaying as some sort of a hit squad, they obviously wanted him to believe that they were going to kill him. It's not like the cops just accidentally went out dressed like that.

This is Denmark, not some Brasilian favela. That type of violent crime extremely rare in Scandinavia. But cops wearing civilian clothes while conducting a raid is fairly normal. Especially when they want to preserve evidence which might be quickly destroyed if the suspect sees them coming.

> This is Denmark, not some Brasilian favela

Yet they're dressed exactly like a hit squad in a Brazilian favela!

>Especially when they want to preserve evidence which might be quickly destroyed if the suspect sees them coming.

Somehow cops elsewhere manage this just fine in appropriate attire.

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:27 PM UTC

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Sorry the justice system is setup to protect them, not you. By putting fear in the leaders of these companies, and showing people that yes, you CAN actually stand up to their corrupt ways and beat them because in the end they are just people, even if they don't see you that way.

>By putting fear in the leaders of these companies

I'm sure people who control the economy, pahrma, law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies are shivering because of fear from people with glocks.

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Post by Mainan_Tagonist » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:27 PM UTC

b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #357

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And freedom fighters are supposed to actually care about "freedom" while terrorists generally do not. I fail to see what great advancements in freedom for anyone involved have come out of the terror attacks performed over the past 25 years.

25 years? Why stop there? How about the US terror attacks on other countries civilians since at least the 1960s?

Yeah... what about those?

How many retaliatory terror attacks on americans performed by citizen of those countries?

What point are you trying to make? US bad? Anything more thoughtful to offer?

The US are an empire and they have behaved as an empire over the last 70 years (bombing, overthrowing governments, supporting dictators). By historical standard, they have proved less coercive than empires of proportionally comparable reach. Think of the Mongols, the Assyrians, the Japanese...

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Post by Mainan_Tagonist » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:30 PM UTC

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Islamists fight to be the oppressors, not to help the oppressed.

> Islamists fight to be the oppressors Eh, the history of Islamism comes out of rebelling against secular dictators who had a habit of imprisoning their thought leaders.

or put simply, just rebelling against any attempt at modernising muslim societies. Anwar Sadat comes to mind.

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Post by Mainan_Tagonist » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:38 PM UTC

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yet you fail to account for the fact that said people wouldn't wouldn't be in power did terrorism not have occurred in the first place. How many bad leaders in the west resulting directly or indirectly from terror attacks?

About as many as bad terrorist groups that began due to catastrophically bad decisions of leaders in the West. I'm sorry to break it to you - the plural you - but all the terrorists that are not traditionally domestic (local leftist/rightist extremists are everywhere, after all) - and the fact they are against the West - is simply a consequence of Western politics. Imperialism and neocollonialism are real, actual pol…

no, it's nothing specific to "The West" or the decisions it has taken. The typical "They hate us because our bad policies" does not explain why every empire (western or not) has had to contend with dissenters keen on overthrowing its "yoke".

How would the Mongols, the Russians, the Egyptian empires have solved the israeli/palestine conflict? Do you know where the terms zealots and sicario come from? Did the Romans solve these terror attacks by reconsidering their "catastrophically bad policies"?

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 6:46 PM UTC

soco wrote: post #233

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>A successful case might be Luigi Mangione. Sorry, but how was that murder successful? Did it achieve the effect that everyone is getting cheaper healthcare now? OR, on the contrary, it only achieved that CEOs are now getting more anonymity and private security, while the plebs are getting more invasive law enforcement tracking like Palantir and Flock shoved up their ass to prevent them from doing something like that…

How would be the US now without Luigi Mangione? Would you have cheaper healthcare? Would Palantir or Flock disappear?

>How would be the US now without Luigi Mangione?

More or less the same except a family of kids would not be missing their father and grow up with the idea of wanting to get revenge on their father's murderer. An eye-for-an-eye never makes good societies which is why all civilized countries outlawed their practice.

>Would Palantir or Flock disappear?

The more elites you murders, the more of your tax dollars the elites will send to the military and law enforcement to better protect them from you and the more of your tax dollars they'll send to Palantir and Flock to spy on you. You can't win this by killing elites, they have more money, more guns than you and their guns are bigger and more powerful than yours. You win by enacting change through popular votes.