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Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Could AI do it? Would it work to give the Windows driver to an LLM and tell it to analyze it and write a Linux driver?

The open source maintainers won't have the Windows source, unless it's given to them.

I meant the binary.

With enough patience and spit it should be possible to understand it. And AI can do it while we sleep.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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When I started using a graphics tablet, long ago, I was confused about why all this stuff was labelled Wacom, and whether it was applicable to me or not, when using a device of another brand. Some parts of it seemed to be, and other parts didn’t? It was very confusing, and a genuine confusion that made me uncertain even in purchasing. (It would be less confusing now because user-facing parts don’t touch the “Wacom” n…

We had to refactor all our internal and external documentation from Master -> leader and slave -> subordinate. So you get things like “… in subordinate mode”. Thankfully the actual code remained the same (because only engineers look at it).

I've seen "slave nodes" renamed to "children nodes". Because a node that exists solely to support another, more important node, has to carry out the orders it receives from that node, must not do anything on its own, and will be terminated and wiped if it diverges from the vision the main node has — yes, it's a child node alright. You see, that's how children are generally treated in our enlightened society, so the new name is now properly evocative, and has no unfortunate implications.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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The issue has always been with the reasons invoked to make the change Otherwise it would have been smoother

You didn't hear the foaming at the mouth shouting to rename master recordings, master documents, or dub over The Master from Dr. Who. Considering how much effort we had to out into fixing pipelines because of hardcoded scripts, and the lack of good reason to do it its no surprise that it was scoffed at. White keyboard warriors needed to make a change, but couldn't do anything meaningful as it would require actually d…

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Could AI do it? Would it work to give the Windows driver to an LLM and tell it to analyze it and write a Linux driver?

The open source maintainers won't have the Windows source, unless it's given to them.

Presumably GP means from the binary form

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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It seems most likely to me that this particular sensitivity to any sort of social controversy and the status of the US as the sort of… de-facto default place of doing international business for a long time, are probably linked. The US corporate culture’s default stance is probably a learned reflex. Better to look a little over-sensitive, than to scuttle a deal by blundering into somebody’s cultural trigger.

It seems to be very popular in the US to take offence on behalf of others. For example: one hears of US people getting upset about “cultural appropriation” on behalf of others, when said others are actually actively happy about their culture being shown and appreciated. You can definitely take things too far in either direction.

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Preach. And it's a disease . Signed, the guy who will forever believe GIMP could have been a contender with a name change decades ago.

Yep. I was an intern at Disney Feature Animation when GIMP first came out. It was really exciting, an alternative to Photoshop (which used to run on linux!) and our in-house painting tools. I pushed for artists to use it, but was told by management to stop mentioning it as "Disney could never use a tool called GIMP". Also that reaction from several artists (who were already tech-savvy, linux using folks in the exact…

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Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Preach. And it's a disease . Signed, the guy who will forever believe GIMP could have been a contender with a name change decades ago.

In non-English speaking countries gimp is a short word that is so seldom used that nobody knows what it means. I used GIMP for a very long time before running into a story about the meaning of the English world. It was only GNU Image Manipulation Program to me. It still is a contender for image editing programs, for limited photo retouch, for very limited drawing (draw a rectangle outline without googling?) I use Lib…

The unfortunate truth is that the English speaking market matters for that kind of product and that name is a barrier. It just doesn’t matter that your day to day language or life doesn’t encounter it.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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It seems most likely to me that this particular sensitivity to any sort of social controversy and the status of the US as the sort of… de-facto default place of doing international business for a long time, are probably linked. The US corporate culture’s default stance is probably a learned reflex. Better to look a little over-sensitive, than to scuttle a deal by blundering into somebody’s cultural trigger.

It seems to be very popular in the US to take offence on behalf of others. For example: one hears of US people getting upset about “cultural appropriation” on behalf of others, when said others are actually actively happy about their culture being shown and appreciated. You can definitely take things too far in either direction.

There's a concept called "allyship", part of which means listening to marginalized people expressing negative reactions to certain popular demeaning acts and acting on their behalf to stop those acts.

In recent memory, you see this in response to last decade's trend of white people wearing Native American headdresses (particular to certain remaining groups of indigenous people in North America) at fashion shows and public events. This was practically the definition of cultural appropriation; in the cultures which display headdresses, one must earn the right to do so, and here you had the descendants of those who committed actual genocide wearing these symbols without even an attempt to understand their significance.

This is in a country that not only practiced genocide, it stole the children of native peoples, ostensibly to educate them to European norms, to cut them off from their hereditary culture; including their language and clothing. It's also a country that continues to ignore its own treaties with indigenous nations and erase their history through "termination" (the policy of un-recognizing individual tribes to eliminate their status).

So maybe it's popular here because this country is particularly terrible at appropriating culture. There's a ton of nuance you might miss if you don't live here and talk to people.

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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Devil's advocate: why should the project have to rename because some companies want them to? That just shifts the window slightly closer to corporate control, something that millions of people worldwide bemoan.

More importantly, why would other companies offer free support for something that will garner free advertising for a competitor?

Nobody except power user tech heads (and apparently, corporations) give two shits about the filenames of the drivers in use

Re: Why Drawing Tablet Brands Won't Collaborate on Linux Floss Drivers

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One thing I miss from Windows is the tablet driver GUI. "cinnamon-settings wacom" doesn't let me map buttons to keys (important for software like FireAlpaca, which pans with the space key instead of supporting the middle mouse button like everybody else in the planet), and it also doesn't let me remap the tablet area to arbitrary screen coordinates. These are things I could do on Windows that I can't do through the G…

have you tried OpenTabletDriver?

Yes, but if I remember correctly I ran into some issues with it. It's been a long time ago so I don't remember what those issues were.
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