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Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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It's all caused by a Meta lobbying initiative across multiple countries as documented in https://tboteproject.com/ (sadly, the website is down right now), but you can find references e.g. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2026/03/the-tbote-project/

NB: don't link jwz.org directly from HN. It plays poorly from both ends.

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Re: Never Give Them Your Face

#252

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Citation was provided for "protect the children" but not for rape gang epidemic? But suppose there was a rape gang epidemic - wouldn't that be a good reason to want to protect the children?

It's import to solve the meta-issues here: 1 you didn't google current events before asking the first Q. Try that before asking someone else to. 2 mid-tier LLMs are capable of reasoning through your second Q. Go ahead try that next time. 3 you haven't accepted that 2 is true and the ramifications thereof.

the meta-meta issue is that you did not provide any response other than "just google it" and "just chatgpt it"

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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An unpopular opinion for this site probably, but all the same arguments apply to gun control and civil liberties in general.

In the united states, the first amendment (what this post is primarily concerned about) and the second amendment are equally important rights, and we should be just as judicious about applying restrictions to the second as the first.

Instead, you see attacks on the 2nd in the name of "safety, verification, age assurance. A small step to protect children". The exact same playbook used against civilian gun ownership will be rolled out against the first amendment, the 4th amendment, etc.

Civil rights and protections should be expanding, not contracting, and the primary focus point for the last 30 years (and the playbooks that will be used elsewhere) are being tested on the second amendment.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

#255
post #30

I completely agree with this, but my banking apps, my broker, my health insurance, my simcard provider all already require my face for identification.

Perhaps we should distinguish between institutions that require strong identity (phone networks shouldn't be in this list but are, which is a separate argument) and institutions that really shouldn't, like random websites.

A pointless distinction for OP's (heavy handed, LLM-generated) point:

>The database you are helping build for a trustworthy government does not stay in trustworthy hands. Administrations change. A registry that merely catalogs who you are today becomes, under a future government, a map of who to find.

This is an objection to driver license databases, to passports; they don't want face scans at airports, much less for banking or insurance. They want off-the-grid, untrackable anonymity. This is incompatible with much of modern life, at least in the mainstream.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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If you are a business that wants to advertise, there’s not much out there besides Meta and Google, so if they don’t pick up the phone, I guess we just won’t advertise online (back to radio spots and the local newspaper which for a small shop is fine I guess)

I've been lured to more local businesses with radio spots and coupon booklets in the mail than Meta/Google ads. Probably an outlier, but still.

Edit: Oh, also comments on reddit r/$cityname recommending a local business are quite useful/effective. They might be botted to hell at this point, but I've never had a bad experience.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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post #44

It ends with "The platforms need you far more than you need them". And I think this is the misconception. No, they don't. The amount of people who will sign this, is a fraction of a fraction of a "platform"'s users. They will not care if they lose 50,000 users out of 2 Billion. A drop in the ocean. Not the target audience anyway. And that is the real shame. Because I don't want to have to give my face or do age verif…

A better idea would be to regulate their corporate behavior and outlaw their current system of corporate governance. It's insane that we keep passing off these companies with a majority shareholder on the board and in the C-suite as capable of being rational actors in the market. They aren't, and can't be made to be. You have to pass laws and enforce them.

You don't need 50 million people to do that.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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I wouldn’t mind as much if it was entirely in house gov run. They realistically know a lot about me already - incl blood donations so could get dna even.

Outsourcing this to random ass for profits is a problem though.

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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post #141
post #27

Can't we even write a short text like this without LLMs anymore, not even when it's really important, when it's about humans against the inhumane ?

I think it is great that people point out LLM generated articles here on HN. Sadly, it feels like I am slowly loosing my skill to identify LLM speak. Maybe I am getting worn out of all LLM content... So, please, list the indicators and telltale signs from the specific article or blog post (like others have done here already). At least I would appreciate it a lot.

The em-dashes

Re: Never Give Them Your Face

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post #228

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but I guess a private company has the right to ignore people they don’t want as customers. The problem is the monopolistic power these companies have.

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Stop using Facebook. It's really that simple.

Found the guy who's never heard of "shadow profiles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_profile

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