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Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by aboardRat4 »

Is there some program that teaches all this mumbo-jumbo that other commenters are using so freely in their comments? Ideally one which looks kinda like a game with scores and achievements.

My understanding of music is quite basic, I know what the 12 notes are and that the "zero" of the frequencies starts at 440 Hz (but since everything is relative, it doesn't really matter that it's 440, it could be anything, but if you choose the zero to be too high or too low, your intervals risk getting out of the perceptible wavelengths), but I don't know what "chords" are and how "intervals" are expected to be played.

I tried learning to play a recorder (flute) using some internet howtos as a guide, but got stuck at the first lesson, when the sound produced by the flute didn't match what the Fourier analyser in audacity measured.

That is, I tried to play a C, but the Fourier transform resulted in a bimodal distribution, and none of the bumps was near the expected C frequency.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by utopiah »

a1o wrote: post #98
utopiah wrote: post #67

Thanks OP, I was going to annoy you with a bunch of request, e.g. "Can I please just get the .apk because I use GrapheneOS without the PlayStore?" then I thought "looks simple enough, maybe I a Web page is enough... no app required" which lead me to https://eguchi.app ... so instead I'll just both you with : what do you think about this alternative? Is it any good?

It looks like it is based on this https://github.com/pganssle/cim , which I think is this web app

Thanks! OP please consider linking their repo to "open-source CIM Trainer by Paul Ganssle" in your readme.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by freetime2 »

aboardRat4 wrote: post #111

Is there some program that teaches all this mumbo-jumbo that other commenters are using so freely in their comments? Ideally one which looks kinda like a game with scores and achievements. My understanding of music is quite basic, I know what the 12 notes are and that the "zero" of the frequencies starts at 440 Hz (but since everything is relative, it doesn't really matter that it's 440, it could be anything, but if…

I think Duolingo has a music course. No idea how good it is though or how deep it goes into theory.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by sudb »

KomoD wrote: post #2

> Young children can acquire absolute (perfect) pitch — but adults cannot. The window closes around age 6. I found some papers suggesting it is possible for adults, but more difficult. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31550277/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31686378/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388931575_Learning_...

There was an interesting study that I attempted to enroll in (but unfortunately was screened out by both age and childhood instrument learning) that was looking at psilocybin potentially giving adults the ability to acquire perfect pitch:

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/psilocybin-research-pitch-stu...

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by aboardRat4 »

freetime2 wrote: post #113
aboardRat4 wrote: post #111

Is there some program that teaches all this mumbo-jumbo that other commenters are using so freely in their comments? Ideally one which looks kinda like a game with scores and achievements. My understanding of music is quite basic, I know what the 12 notes are and that the "zero" of the frequencies starts at 440 Hz (but since everything is relative, it doesn't really matter that it's 440, it could be anything, but if…

I think Duolingo has a music course. No idea how good it is though or how deep it goes into theory.

Duolingo is garbage based on dry cramming.

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by a_c »

freetime2 wrote: post #113
aboardRat4 wrote: post #111

Is there some program that teaches all this mumbo-jumbo that other commenters are using so freely in their comments? Ideally one which looks kinda like a game with scores and achievements. My understanding of music is quite basic, I know what the 12 notes are and that the "zero" of the frequencies starts at 440 Hz (but since everything is relative, it doesn't really matter that it's 440, it could be anything, but if…

I think Duolingo has a music course. No idea how good it is though or how deep it goes into theory.

For music it is pretty useless

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by a_c »

pganssle wrote: post #105

So I built the original web app for this (it's not stolen, it's open source and I told OP they could fork it). I've been glad to see it getting more attention over the years. One note of caution here is that with my older son we did this for a few years and it hasn't really worked as expected. He can identify all the chords perfectly every time, but when we started testing single notes, he was worse than chance at it…

Did it help your son to study music?

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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Post by agos »

sudo_cowsay wrote: post #26
KomoD wrote: post #2

> Young children can acquire absolute (perfect) pitch — but adults cannot. The window closes around age 6. I found some papers suggesting it is possible for adults, but more difficult. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31550277/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31686378/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388931575_Learning_...

It’s not “real” perfect pitch. It’s more like training and memorizing. It doesn’t come as naturally as it does for kids.

isn't perfect pitch for kids also training and memorizing? the learning method from the original post surely suggests so

Re: Show HN: Teach your kids perfect pitch

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aboardRat4 wrote: post #111

Is there some program that teaches all this mumbo-jumbo that other commenters are using so freely in their comments? Ideally one which looks kinda like a game with scores and achievements. My understanding of music is quite basic, I know what the 12 notes are and that the "zero" of the frequencies starts at 440 Hz (but since everything is relative, it doesn't really matter that it's 440, it could be anything, but if…

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