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Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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You dont have to give up equality under the law, you just have to accept that there is a lot more that goes into a prosecution than the act. Were witnesses cooperative and credible, what was the intent, what was context. I dont know the specifics of this case. Maybe there was a miscarriage of justice. But just the fact the acts are the same doesn't show that. There is a lot more factors to consider.

> what was the intent, what was context. The intent and context are obviously better for the one who's clearly sending the "threat" as a political statement against selective enforcement. > I dont know the specifics of this case. Maybe there was a miscarriage of justice. But just the fact the acts are the same doesn't show that. There is a lot more factors to consider ... and you're willing to give the benefit of dou…

> The intent and context are obviously better for the one who's clearly sending the "threat" as a political statement against selective enforcement.

That is far from obvious.

In general i think that attempting to alter the course of justice via a threat is much worse than a simple threat. Any situation where officers of the court are afraid to impartially do their duties to coercion is a fundamental threat to society and should be dealt with harshly.

> ... and you're willing to give the benefit of doubt to those with power here.

I'm basing my view on the arguments presented in this thread.

So far what has been presented is that the prosecutor did something very normal that happens all the time for very reasonable reasons. Its possible that in this case it happened due to inappropriate reasons, idk, but so far nobody has even presented a theory for why the action was corrupt instead of normal.

In general i think it is the job of the person arguing that misconduct occured to present evidence that it actually happened. Otherwise things descend into witch hunts as it is very difficult to prove a negative.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Think about why do governments want to ban encryption? Because they want to know everything about you all the time. Collecting information on someone such as their location is of the same order.

> Think about why do governments want to ban encryption? Because they want to know everything about you all the time. Or, say, because they want a judicial warrant to be sufficient for obtaining someone's information without their consent? > Collecting information on someone such as their location is of the same order. Huh? This sounds crazy.

It's not that complicated. Minister wants to remove citizens privacy. Protester invades privacy of minister in response. On the one hand I agree that gps-tracking is not exactly the same as analyzing people's messages, on the other hand one can often infer whereabouts through messaging services indirectly or even directly such as when people share their gps location with one another (a feature that e.g. whatsapp has).

Anyway, apparently this Peter Hummelgaard has said:

"I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security ... and given that the prerequisite for freedom is security, yes, I believe that more surveillance equates to more freedom"

so I think you will find it easier to understand these kinds of protest actions if you consider them in the context of privacy vs. surveillance more broadly conceived.

(source for quote https://mastodon.social/@chatcontrol/115314954743042414 -> https://www.dr.dk/lyd/special-radio/prompt/prompt-2025/egois...)

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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> How can we know the IRA “won”? In signing the GFA, the UK effectively gave up on it's sovereignty over NI. That was never going to happen through "peaceful and democratic means"

Good god! It's difficult to make out if this is ignorance, a poor attempt at satire or simply trolling.

Which part do you disagree with?

The border is in the North Channel today, so the bit about sovereignty clearly holds up.

Are you saying the GFA would have been reached through peaceful means?

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Shooting intruders isn’t though. They’d basically have to attack you first for lethal force to be legal.

This is not the law here in Sweden, at least. We don't have precedent in the way that common law countries do, and the judgements in actual cases point in slightly different directions-- in one case a court felt that the failure to fire a warning shot made it not self-defence, in another fighting people trying to get into an apartment with a knife was deemed acceptable. Generally though, if someone is breaking into y…

I am Swedish, and it’s very true that ”it depends”.

This guy for example was convicted of murder because he got his gun out without even trying to contact the police directly or indirectly. So even if he pulled the trigger under reasonable circumstances (a know violent offender was trying to take his rifle) he was found guilty because he should not have gone for the gun without considering alternatives like locking the door or fleeing.

I can’t see him being anywhere near guaranteed to claim self defense even if he had fired a warning shot first.

https://svenskjakt.se/start/nyhet/skot-inkraktare-med-algstu...

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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How is force working for Hamas? The shift in general sentiment towards Israel came from Israel's blatant disregard for civilian life and from their apartheid politics being put in spotlight. Hamas are still regarded as terrorist savages by everyone sane and their Oct 7 attack served as an excuse for Israel to set them back and hunt them regardless of collateral casualties, terrorizing their compatriots

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It’s sounds like you think it’s brilliant that more Palestinians were killed as long as it negatively affected Israel’s PR.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Calling yourself a "privacy advocate" while gloating that you posted PII is quite something

I guess it's like castle doctrine for the information space. Something like "your right to privacy stops when you openly try to undermine mine...".

I see it as a morally valid approach. Politicians are well within their power to not be corrupt and value the US/bigcorp/oligarch x over the people they vowed to represent.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Whatever Lars may be, the fact that a lawful arrest could not be filmed sucks. I can find other reasons behind needing to cut the circuit breakers during an arrest of a hacker in an effort to secure evidence.

Peter Hummelgaard on the other hand, can just fuck right off. Former head of the ministry of justice seriously argued that the mass surveillance initiatives he led were right because he "felt" it...

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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>A successful case might be Luigi Mangione. Sorry, but how was that murder successful? Did it achieve the effect that everyone is getting cheaper healthcare now? OR, on the contrary, it only achieved that CEOs are now getting more anonymity and private security, while the plebs are getting more invasive law enforcement tracking like Palantir and Flock shoved up their ass to prevent them from doing something like that…

> Sorry, but how was that murder successful?

Successful in winning over the public.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Success in what exactly? There a very strong political movement in Denmark towards protecting privacy rights, then there’s this nutjob who just got out of jail for bribes, harassment, death threats against politicians and immediately he starts stalking the kids of the prime minister. He’s not doing anything for the cause he claims to fight for. He’s doesn’t want a right to privacy he wants to be allowed to continue t…

> Success in what exactly? There a very strong political movement in Denmark towards protecting privacy rights Doesn't seem to be working.

By what metric? The fact that he got arrested for stalking the prime ministers children and releasing private information speaks toward protecting privacy not an issue if lacking privacy.

You can’t just declare “I am an anti violence activist” then go out and beat up politicians and declare that the system has a problem with violence when you get arrested.

This is the equivalent of what he’s done. He claims to support privacy laws so he violated the privacy of someone who is currently protected by the PET (equivalent of FBI) due to safety concerns and he proudly proclaimed that he did so by stalking her children. He’s not a political activist he’s a drug dealer who’s hell bent on getting revenge on politicians because he just spent 8 months in jail after being convicted on counts of death threats harassment and illegal possession of arms and drugs.

Re: Danish privacy activist Lars Andersen raided by police

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Shooting intruders isn’t though. They’d basically have to attack you first for lethal force to be legal.

If a masked person, that doesn't first identify themselves clearly as the police (which is difficult since, well, they are masked) breaks into my house, that's a lethal attack for sure. What are you going to do after they enter the house (if they aren't indeed the police and you trust they won't kill or rape your family)?

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