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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by nextaccountic »

data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

right now the best contender is GLM 5.2, right?

either this or stick with Codex until the US government cripples it too

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by danpalmer »

data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> Mistral nails it, and when it doesn't its so fast to iterate

I'm starting to see more and more of this: speed matters more than model, skills matter more than model, cost matters more, harness matters more than model. It seems like until we have a step change in models (and Fable isn't it), there's a lot of room to optimise with what we already have.

This is a stark change to the "best model at all costs" mentality from a year ago.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by slashdave »

xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

ISPs are legally protected. AI companies are not.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by slashdave »

jerry4next wrote: post #382
sinker wrote: post #312

Cancelled. Anthropic can get bent if it wants to market itself as the ethical AI choice and at the same time lies in bed with those openly pushing for a surveillance state.

I canceled when they first labeled as a supply chain risk. Switched to codex and neverlooked back. This company will be more evil then Google at the end.

So... do you know why they were labeled that way?

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by slashdave »

Rooster61 wrote: post #22

I really don't like that headlines have been surfacing about the US government putting pressure on Anthropic, and now a short time later they are requiring ID's (albeit for certain use cases, but that's a slippery slope). I may very well stop using Claude due to this. Also, who is providing the verification service? We don't want another Discord situation. EDIT: Just saw it's Persona. Definitely dropping Claude now.

Of course you don't like it. Which is why it is being spread around, even though it has nothing to do with Fable.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by x0x0 »

LPisGood wrote: post #166
halJordan wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's almost certainly just bad engineering/bad business. Not to say it wasn't an active choice, I'm sure it was. It just shows how extreme the power imbalance is between end users and big business that they have 0 desire to do things correctly and end users have 0 impact on correcting that thinking.

OpenAI has notoriously terrible engineering. Look no further than the numerous Reddit threads and YouTube videos about people trying to give them money for their services and being denied. Users routinely have to try a number of credit cards, a number of web browsers, a number of devices, and a number of physical locations. I’m not talking about sketchy prepaid cards from weird banks on a VPN in a country the United…

I had immense trouble buying api quota as a startup with a brex card and a C corp.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by mapontosevenths »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #371
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

The government mandate forcing them to restrict access of new models to American has really cut their legs under them. This identity verification is a best effort to kinda stay afloat: they can now offer bleeding edge models to US nationals, but not to the other 95% of the world. Their influence is gonna tank quite seriously if the previous mandate is not reversed. Realistically, their choices are to either implement…

The worst part is that the entire ban is zero step thinking. The US is showing the world that even when it has the best tech it's too politically unstable to rely on as a serious partner.

Worse, doing this forces other nations to catch up to compete. Once they have, what happens next? An AI arms race that the US may not win? Someone else opens their Fable class model first and takes the multi-trillion dollar market that could have been run by a US company?

There is no n-step positive outcome for the USA. The only winning move was not to play.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by rubicon33 »

Aurornis wrote: post #418

This page has been up since April: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... I see a lot of comments linking this to Fable or implying that the existence of this page is triggering them to cancel. You should know that this help page and their ID process are not new. This page has been up for many months. It gets discussed from time to time, including in past HN posts.

Thanks. I went looking for how to actually verify myself as I would love to get access to Fable again. This post confirmed it, it's not relate to Fable at all and has been around. Thanks.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

baw-bag wrote: post #435
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Persona isn’t just an id upload. It’s also face scan by video.

Surprised there isn't a "Fake Face" market like a mannequin face delivered to your door.

The latest ones make you smile, shut eyes / wink, look up, down, etc. plus for Apple they use the lidar and the IR camera for heat.
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