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Realistically this is a "who cares" for me. It represents very little if any incremental privacy loss.
The only question left is which countries will have access or if it will be USA only.
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I don't know what was the hype about Fable. It was crap. This more looks like PR stunt by the US government to prop up the failing product. Now everyone talks about Fable and wants Fable. Having used it for limited time when it was available, I don't miss it at all.
I wanted Fable in order to harden my C project against exploits and vulnerabilities. Anthropic downgraded me to Opus 4.8 every single time I tried to do it. So I don't even know if I miss it. I suppose that's equivalent to never having used Fable at all.
The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…
And then for stuff that you already said you were able to use Mistral for... Qwen-3.6 (option to run locally), MiMo-2.5, DeepSeek-V4-Flash, or... many, many other models to choose from too.
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> The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. Note the big cut in token prices from China. [1] https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202606/1363827.shtml
> Note the big cut in token prices from China. After the recent 75%+ price cuts by DeepSeek & Xiaomi MiMo (and now, MiniMax), I pretty much packed my Claude bag up and moved over. I see no discernable difference (other than chattiness of its thinking modes) in capabilities for the kind of coding & debugging work I do.
Then GLM came out and that just means everything got even better.
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> Note the big cut in token prices from China. After the recent 75%+ price cuts by DeepSeek & Xiaomi MiMo (and now, MiniMax), I pretty much packed my Claude bag up and moved over. I see no discernable difference (other than chattiness of its thinking modes) in capabilities for the kind of coding & debugging work I do.
You need to look up loss leader strategy and dumping in international trade because that is what china is doing. And your use of their models over api is giving them training data. They will flip to being just as bad or worse if they beat America. But America isn’t deserving trust at this point. The only viable option now is local AI. Our industry needs to figure out how to decentralize training data, infrastructure,…
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Persona already had scandals earlier this year: - https://cybernews.com/privacy/persona-leak-exposes-global-su... - https://hothardware.com/news/discord-drops-persona-after-use... It’s off putting outside of HN
The Peter Thiel connection is especially toxic for a lot of people outside the US. Whether it's substantive or just optics doesn't make a huge difference.
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> banned from accessing Fable by the land of the free It should go without saying, but "the free" in "the land of the free" refers to Americans, not everyone else. Not sure if you were trying to make it sound like a great irony that "the land of the free" would exclude or ban people, but if so it doesn't quite hit the mark. A more cutting criticism would be that the land of the free isn't letting one of its own compa…
Fair point. The fact that even americans got cut off from Fable is definitely ironic though. I suppose that's going to be fixed now that they're implementing identity verification. And even that runs smack into the concept of freedom since freedom under surveillance isn't real.
Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…
Thank you. This is an expansion of surveillance. Most concerning to me is how few people understand government's access to this data. People treat AI like a diary, and the government can request that data at anytime.
The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…
They clearly specify that they accept IDs from most countries. This likely means that they've reached a deal (or hope that they'll reach one) with the US government that lets them share Fable with foreigners, but only as long as they know exactly who it is being shared with. This is off-putting to the HN demographic, but won't change anything in practice. 99+% of people will just do the ID verification and move on.