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HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by apparent »

nikolay wrote: post #40

My oldest daughter almost died from the first Gardasil, so you may not die from cervical cancer, but die from something else. I am not against vaccines; my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months, and so am I, but the HPV vaccine was not mandatory, so, given the experience and the similar genetics, we didn't do it for the other two kids. Yeah, ther…

Yeah I thought about mentioning the fairly rare but awful cases that seem pretty clearly linked to the shot. It may be not very common, but it is a thing, and it's worth considering in the cost-benefit analysis.

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arjie wrote: post #33

Every time HPV comes up, someone says “guys should get the vaccine too” but I’ve never managed to succeed. Even after last time someone mentioned it I tried and I got the absolutely worst result where they recorded me as being given it but then said it wasn’t meant for men my age. Had to get it removed from the record by the One Medical people I saw next. And when I saw them, they said it wouldn’t be covered under in…

Here in Ontario it's just offered to all grade 7s, boy or girls.

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Post by mullingitover »

TZubiri wrote: post #53

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> I fear that we have a risk budget, so when STD risk is reduced via a cure or prophylaxis, humans increase the amount of sex they have until the STD rate stabilizes again.

Nope.

Gen Z rather famously is not having a lot of sex despite all the scary STDs not being as scary as they’ve been historically.

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Post by zeristor »

alistairSH wrote: post #13

Reducing deaths is great, but shouldn’t they also mention the reduction in treatment (which is usually surgical or chemo, both of which are massively expensive, traumatic, and life altering in negative ways).

The people that died there's the numbers for that, but the people that didn't need treatment in the first place.

Not just a reduction in trauma but freeing up Drs to treat other cancers too.

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Post by jrgoff »

arjie wrote: post #33

Every time HPV comes up, someone says “guys should get the vaccine too” but I’ve never managed to succeed. Even after last time someone mentioned it I tried and I got the absolutely worst result where they recorded me as being given it but then said it wasn’t meant for men my age. Had to get it removed from the record by the One Medical people I saw next. And when I saw them, they said it wouldn’t be covered under in…

I got it in the US in my late 30s or early 40s - I think it was even at One Medical (though I assume One Medical may be fairly different now after Amazon took it over). It was covered by my insurance.

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Post by mullingitover »

nikolay wrote: post #40

My oldest daughter almost died from the first Gardasil, so you may not die from cervical cancer, but die from something else. I am not against vaccines; my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months, and so am I, but the HPV vaccine was not mandatory, so, given the experience and the similar genetics, we didn't do it for the other two kids. Yeah, ther…

Anaphylaxis is going to happen something like 3 per million Gardasil doses.

The math doesn’t math on the decision not to get the vaccine unless you know for a fact that you’re going to have an anaphylactic reaction. The risk of cancer is far higher if you choose to take the alternative risk.

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Post by wat10000 »

TZubiri wrote: post #53

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AIDS was killing over 40,000 people per year in the US at its peak. It’s now almost 10x lower despite a significantly larger population. I don’t think there’s some other STD killing tens of thousands per year to fill that gap.

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Post by TZubiri »

mullingitover wrote: post #63
TZubiri wrote: post #53

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> I fear that we have a risk budget, so when STD risk is reduced via a cure or prophylaxis, humans increase the amount of sex they have until the STD rate stabilizes again. Nope. Gen Z rather famously is not having a lot of sex despite all the scary STDs not being as scary as they’ve been historically.

Granted they also do less alcohol and drugs I hear. But it's still very early in that cohort's life, and there's also going to be other next cohorts.

The expected timespan for the benefit of this cure to dissipate would be in the decades.

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Post by QuiEgo »

apparent wrote: post #22
blcknight wrote: post #19

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For some reason not really talked about in mainstream medicine for straight men. It makes no sense. Very safe vaccine and you're eligible into your 40's to get it. Everyone sexually active probably has some strains but not all.

Yeah, not everyone.

HPV spreads even when condoms are used - any skin to skin contact can spread it. So yeah, not everyone, but it’s exceptionally prevalent. Luckily most strains are relatively harmless.
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