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HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by apparent »

Arodex wrote: post #27
apparent wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The linked chart shows that there were none in the 20-24 age range during the during the recent few years. Is the entire population vaccinated? If not (the article doesn't claim this), then the fact that no one in that age range died (and only 5 in the entire under-30 cohort) tends to indicate that it was not a very high base rate. Are there other sources that show data going back to the 1970s? Probably! I didn't go…

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Your source doesn't say what you think it says, as evidenced by your other mistaken comments in this thread. I was referring to other sources (other than the one you posted, which doesn't say what you think it does) because I wanted to know if anything supported your claims.

Please stop with the ad hominem business, which is frowned upon by the HN guidelines (I see you're new here).

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by arjie »

Every time HPV comes up, someone says “guys should get the vaccine too” but I’ve never managed to succeed. Even after last time someone mentioned it I tried and I got the absolutely worst result where they recorded me as being given it but then said it wasn’t meant for men my age. Had to get it removed from the record by the One Medical people I saw next.

And when I saw them, they said it wouldn’t be covered under insurance and would be like $1.2k. I intended to just get it on my next visit to India but ended up not traveling.

I don’t get it. Is this like those Internet memes “don’t mess with the postal police” and stuff or is it a real thing? Any guy in their late 30s in the US who managed to get it?

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by graeme »

Supermancho wrote: post #32

Why is a this news headline using the slang "jabs"?

In the UK it's commonly said, and the Guardian is a UK paper.

Though you've noticed a real thing: for some reason during and after the pandemic publications outside of the UK started saying it too and I don't know why.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by Avshalom »

blcknight wrote: post #19
eek2121 wrote: post #8

Just a note: the article focuses on the ladies, but men should absolutely get it as well because it cuts risk for other types of cancers. I was looking for a better link, however this is the only one I found (I had an older one saved, however I can't find it): https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/health/hpv-men-vaccine-cancer...

For some reason not really talked about in mainstream medicine for straight men. It makes no sense. Very safe vaccine and you're eligible into your 40's to get it. Everyone sexually active probably has some strains but not all.

the reason is no one realized hpv was connected to much more than cervical cancer until fairly recently.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by ggm »

arjie wrote: post #33

Every time HPV comes up, someone says “guys should get the vaccine too” but I’ve never managed to succeed. Even after last time someone mentioned it I tried and I got the absolutely worst result where they recorded me as being given it but then said it wasn’t meant for men my age. Had to get it removed from the record by the One Medical people I saw next. And when I saw them, they said it wouldn’t be covered under in…

American experience. It's free in Australia for people aged 12-25 and men who have sex with men (increased risks) and nothing like that price for private script.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by estebank »

apparent wrote: post #24
estebank wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BBC article had that more comparable information: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c621z28z138o > Between 2020 and 2024, no cervical cancer deaths were recorded in women aged 20 to 24 - the first time that had happened over a five-year period. > Without vaccination, around 23 deaths would have been expected. Note the first chart in the link showing the historical trend for the 20-24 cohort since 2000 plumetting…

Out of curiosity, have there been any other advances in medicine that would make it less likely that women would die from cervical cancer before hitting 30? I don't keep up on oncology developments, but I assume that this particular shot is not the only thing that has reduced cervical cancer deaths in women under 30. If they were looking at rates of acquiring cancer, that would be more focused on this intervention.

I'm not a doctor and certainly not an oncologist.

The CDC mentions that not smoking and wearing condoms also lower the risk.

https://www.cdc.gov/cervical-cancer/prevention/index.html

Anecdotally people smoke less thant they uses to. Don't know what condom usage rates have done in the past quarter century.

> I assume that this particular shot is not the only thing that has reduced cervical cancer deaths in women under 30.

Why would you assume that when presented with a study that tracks with long standing belief in the medical community that the HPV vaccine works?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by rationalist »

graeme wrote: post #34
Supermancho wrote: post #32

Why is a this news headline using the slang "jabs"?

In the UK it's commonly said, and the Guardian is a UK paper. Though you've noticed a real thing: for some reason during and after the pandemic publications outside of the UK started saying it too and I don't know why.

> outside of the UK

> I don't know why

My guess is because it has a negative connotation (the pre-2020 definition of jabbing someone was to hit someone, not inject someone).

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by iknowstuff »

arjie wrote: post #33

Every time HPV comes up, someone says “guys should get the vaccine too” but I’ve never managed to succeed. Even after last time someone mentioned it I tried and I got the absolutely worst result where they recorded me as being given it but then said it wasn’t meant for men my age. Had to get it removed from the record by the One Medical people I saw next. And when I saw them, they said it wouldn’t be covered under in…

Yes I got Gardasil 9 for free in San Francisco.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Post by nikolay »

My oldest daughter almost died from the first Gardasil, so you may not die from cervical cancer, but die from something else. I am not against vaccines; my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months, and so am I, but the HPV vaccine was not mandatory, so, given the experience and the similar genetics, we didn't do it for the other two kids. Yeah, there's a risk of cancer, which might be curable 5-10-15 years from now, but the risk of side effects is here now... for some. So, it's not always a win-win, and we've got no interest from health authorities in assessing the risk for my other two kids, so they also seem very risk-averse and want us to assume all the negatives.
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