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HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Just a note: the article focuses on the ladies, but men should absolutely get it as well because it cuts risk for other types of cancers. I was looking for a better link, however this is the only one I found (I had an older one saved, however I can't find it): https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/health/hpv-men-vaccine-cancer...

yes! Apparently the rate of penile and throat cancer occurs at only half the rate in men as it does as cervical cancer in women, but the harm caused by the male versions of the cancer are worse, so in actual fact it may overall cause more harm in the male population.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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From what risk level without them? How many people actually die of cervical cancer before age 30?? I mean, vaccinations and cancer prevention are both great, but this headline is ridiculous.

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So 5 deaths across 3 years? Doesn't seem worth a headline, especially since it could literally just be noise in the data.

Also, no need to post snarkily about LMGTFY. TFA should have included the base rate, and the fact that it didn't signals that it's not much of a reduction. It also signals that the journalist who wrote it is more in it for clicks than conveying accurate information.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Reducing deaths is great, but shouldn’t they also mention the reduction in treatment (which is usually surgical or chemo, both of which are massively expensive, traumatic, and life altering in negative ways).

They could do that, but given how low the base rate is, the reduction in number of procedures (and the resulting negative impacts on the women) would be incredibly low. It seems the base rate for cervical cancer deaths under 30 was already near zero.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So 5 deaths across 3 years? Doesn't seem worth a headline, especially since it could literally just be noise in the data. Also, no need to post snarkily about LMGTFY. TFA should have included the base rate, and the fact that it didn't signals that it's not much of a reduction. It also signals that the journalist who wrote it is more in it for clicks than conveying accurate information.

Absolutely is - this is such a no-brainer of a public health intervention. We're not touching on the cost of treatment (including inability to have future children! very much something a State should be interested in avoiding).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So 5 deaths across 3 years? Doesn't seem worth a headline, especially since it could literally just be noise in the data. Also, no need to post snarkily about LMGTFY. TFA should have included the base rate, and the fact that it didn't signals that it's not much of a reduction. It also signals that the journalist who wrote it is more in it for clicks than conveying accurate information.

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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post #8

Just a note: the article focuses on the ladies, but men should absolutely get it as well because it cuts risk for other types of cancers. I was looking for a better link, however this is the only one I found (I had an older one saved, however I can't find it): https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/health/hpv-men-vaccine-cancer...

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Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Reducing deaths is great, but shouldn’t they also mention the reduction in treatment (which is usually surgical or chemo, both of which are massively expensive, traumatic, and life altering in negative ways).

They could do that, but given how low the base rate is, the reduction in number of procedures (and the resulting negative impacts on the women) would be incredibly low. It seems the base rate for cervical cancer deaths under 30 was already near zero.

> given how low the base rate is, the reduction in number of procedures (and the resulting negative impacts on the women) would be incredibly low

Correct. These data are more a preview of what we can expect to see as the vaccinated cohort (in countries that aren’t pro-disease) advances in age.

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Just a note: the article focuses on the ladies, but men should absolutely get it as well because it cuts risk for other types of cancers. I was looking for a better link, however this is the only one I found (I had an older one saved, however I can't find it): https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/health/hpv-men-vaccine-cancer...

For some reason not really talked about in mainstream medicine for straight men. It makes no sense. Very safe vaccine and you're eligible into your 40's to get it. Everyone sexually active probably has some strains but not all.

Re: HPV vaccine cuts risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So 5 deaths across 3 years? Doesn't seem worth a headline, especially since it could literally just be noise in the data. Also, no need to post snarkily about LMGTFY. TFA should have included the base rate, and the fact that it didn't signals that it's not much of a reduction. It also signals that the journalist who wrote it is more in it for clicks than conveying accurate information.

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The linked chart shows that there were none in the 20-24 age range during the during the recent few years. Is the entire population vaccinated? If not (the article doesn't claim this), then the fact that no one in that age range died (and only 5 in the entire under-30 cohort) tends to indicate that it was not a very high base rate.

Are there other sources that show data going back to the 1970s? Probably! I didn't go searching for them. I looked at what was linked above and saw there were very few. As I said, the Guardian journalist didn't include a base rate, which surely would have been included if it bolstered the argument.

EDIT: I just scrolled down further and saw that even the chart that shows trends over time (which I hadn't seen before, having stopped scrolling earlier) doesn't support your point. It shows there were roughly .2 deaths per year per 100k. Not having any deaths in 20-24 for 3 years is not a statistically significant difference, I would imagine, than the .2 figure. Also, there are undoubtedly other cancer-related advances that have made it less likely that a young woman would die of any kind of cancer.

And the data regarding under-30 deaths is muddled because the next bucket up is 25-34, and we don't know what it is up to 29.

Lastly, at the bottom there's this disclaimer, which makes it even harder to tell what's going on with small numbers:

> Note: Non-zero counts of 5 or less are suppressed and presented as 5.

If you have another source, please feel free to share. What we've seen so far (nothing in TFA, nothing of import in the commenter's linked data) isn't remotely compelling.

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