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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by OtomotO »

azinman2 wrote: post #158
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

> As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. That’s totally unclear. Things are changing fast. No statement from god or potus has come down about the future of LLMs and who can access what. And for what it’s worth, I’m not able to access fable and I’m a US citizen.

As is everything coming out of the US these days.

If you have a person as president that changes his opinions faster and more often than their underwear, you're simply not reliable.

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Post by dofm »

skywhopper wrote: post #236

It will never stop amusing me that an expired ID is invalid for verification. How does that negate my identity? Particularly my age.

Isn't it because expired IDs drop out of validation databases, fundamentally?

So an expired ID is not verifiable in the same way a fake one isn't.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by dofm »

macic wrote: post #27

Very disappointing that they went with Persona, the company whose CEO regularly argues with people on Twitter and lies about their arguments.

Then again they are renting data centre space from SpaceX, so there's a pattern.

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Post by kajman »

preg_match wrote: post #225
christoph wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed - Persona is backed by Founders Fund - also linked to lovely companies like Palantir, Flock & Anduril. Some people still (claim they) can’t see the massive dragnet swirling around all of society right now.

It’s especially frustrating with Anthropic because we’ve known about issues with Persona for a while now, with discord. But anthropic leadership I guess is like any company leadership - stupid, blind, and lazy. Just go with the vendor whose name you know. Anthropic could have EASILY made an in-house solution with < 100 employees. But no, they have to make the same mistakes that behemoths like IBM and Oracle make. Y’a…

I'm just a petty conspiracy theorist, but my assumption is their use of Persona was part of "the deal" they've been encouraged to make, and what you're seeing is a company being brought to heel.

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Post by chickensong »

dom96 wrote: post #247

I don't mind this, what I do mind is that there is still no way to verify my identity without giving private information to third parties. Why aren't governments building zero knowledge proof-based solutions to this?

Because governments are notoriously inept and corrupt. I think it's bound to happen eventually (though probably not ZKP), but I'm not holding my breath.

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Post by g42gregory »

I am not sure what is the purpose of this. If you are paying with a credit card, they already have your fully verified identity through the bank's KYC, fully protecting Anthropic legally.

Corporate accounts, in the US, will have full personal identification through the corresponding company's HR.

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Post by DocTomoe »

JimDabell wrote: post #6

OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

As a relatively enthusiastic OpenAI user ...

what did you do to trigger a verification process?

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by bnj »

dofm wrote: post #256
bnj wrote: post #254

> We are not collecting more than we need Why does anthropic need more than a credit card for paying subscribers?

Issuer country is not a very good proxy for nationality, I suppose.

Wouldn't this also be true of government issued ID's? There's nothing preventing a non-US national from having a drivers license...

Maybe I just don't understand the definitions?

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