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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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> Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality From my perspective, these LLM providers aren’t infrastructure providers but more like SaaS. And there are also open models that you can use to do anything you want. These AI companies are also under a lot of scrutiny and sometimes it feels like whatever they do in this regard, they’re bound to piss someone off. Last but not least, it…

The irony is the current administration’s posturing against Chinese AI companies forcing something like this is going to actually bolster competitive advantage overseas. That and European companies as well. The landscape is going to change drastically in 5 years once all the data centers are built all over the world. The science behind these models are being worked on IN PUBLIC. The research is not secret. The implem…

> The science behind these models are being worked on IN PUBLIC. The research is not secret. The implementations will all catch up.

Only to a limited extent - the US companies stopped sharing research a long time ago, other than Anthropic's interpretability research (which also seems to have dried up?). Interestingly most of the sharing is now coming from the Chinese side, largely DeepSeek. Ziphu/Z.ai (GLM) is also partner in the Slime RL training framework.

I wouldn't call much, if any, of this "science" - it's all empiricalism. Throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks. There's a famous quote from Noam Shazeer:

"We offer no explanation as to why these architectures seem to work; we attribute their success, as all else, to divine benevolence"

https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.05202v1

Jakob Uszkoreit has also talked about the empiricalism that it took to make what would become the Transformer, and any complex neural network architecture work.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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I’ve been waiting for days for an appeal decision on a suspension that I have zero clue on why it happened! I’m trying very hard not to hate Anthropic right now! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48597861

It’s all over the place. A UK bank i’d been with 7+ years for a business savings account suddenly started demanding ID or they would “limit” access (lock my money up until I dance to their tune). They already have all this. My identity nor address have changed in 15 years. The account is super low activity savings. Zero possible red flags. The verification process started out as “just a photo of my driving licence” -…

I especially hate it when there is absolutely zero recourse! In some cases you can go to the competition and in some you have no other option because some aspects of the service is setup as a monopoly or high friction exit process. I’m personally against any black box decision making that would disrupt someone’s life in any way.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#113

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There is the undocumented 3rd option of simply shrugging and moving on without LLMs, you know, business as usual.

That's a choice you are free to make, just like you're free to shrug and not use the internet or computers.

eyeroll If you truly had the courage of your convictions you would have gone all in here and told me to stop using electricity.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Let us hope this only accelerates the proliferation of local models

Serving barely useful GLM 5.2 costs what? $15k? Actually useful is like $50k? You’ll never recoup the cost unless you ‘locally’ means ‘inference provider is not the model provider’?

Yes they mean open weight models offered by various providers

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#118
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Serving barely useful GLM 5.2 costs what? $15k? Actually useful is like $50k? You’ll never recoup the cost unless you ‘locally’ means ‘inference provider is not the model provider’?

Not "local" in the literal sense, but I set it up to serve at half quant for $23/hr and full quant for $35/hr. You don't need to have it always on? This is a far cry from "$200/month," but I do not think it's $50k for "useful." Do you see it differently?

This is probably the dumbest possible way to do it. Just buy tokens through open router and you could run it all month 24/7 at 100tps for practically nothing. There are tons of ways to pay for things without giving your personal information.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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That ship has sailed. Even if you never even tab complete in cursor, if you don’t let LLMs review your code you’re very, very behind unless you’re in a deeply specialized domain which doesn’t have any public training data available. Anything remotely public and you’re just outpaced.

Is this your first tech industry hype cycle or something?

No, it’s my experience from the past 6 months

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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The whole point of an identity check is that they know exactly who you are. If you tell them who you are and you fail the identity check, you can’t simply create a new account because when you go through the identity check for a second time you’ll still need to tell them exactly who you are, at which point they can match the new account to the original failure.

If I told them who I was and then failed to verify that, they don't know who I am because they think I'm lying about who I am. Otherwise what stops me DoSing Sam Altman's account by saying I'm him and then failing to verify?

> If I told them who I was and then failed to verify that, they don't know who I am because they think I'm lying about who I am.

They know who you claim to be. It’s not like they just delete all information about you when you fail verification. They are perfectly capable of seeing that two separate accounts are both claiming to be the same person.

> Otherwise what stops me DoSing Sam Altman's account by saying I'm him and then failing to verify?

For Sam Altman in particular? The fact that he’s the CEO. For people in general? Do you have their passport / driving license, and other details needed to attempt the verification process?

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