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Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by mendigou »

bjackman wrote: post #108
jatins wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they'll catch up in pure model capabilities but they do such a terrible job of making products from which to use their models that having the best model doesn't end up mattering. Is Gemini good at writing code? I am sure it is. But where is their Codex? And no, antigravity isn't it. Is Gemini good at making visualizations? I am sure it is. But where are artifact or visualise skill in gemini.google.com similar…

This is weird coz as a user of both Gemini and Claude I have the opposite feeling. Antigravity CLI is quite decent, it's a huge step up from Gemini CLI (like, for example, it actually fucking works) and has some genuine advantages over Claude Code. Does Codex have something over both of them? I haven't tried it. But the model just fucking sucks. Before I switched to Claude for personal stuff a few weeks ago, I was li…

I would be interested to hear what advantages you find Antigravity CLI has over Claude Code.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by geodel »

Well, tons of top people left Google when Facebook was up and coming. Its nothing new. Google can't really do much for people who've made up their mind.

But yeah conspiracy theoretical approach would generate lot of discussion on this rather normal thing happening.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by jwithington »

kingkongjaffa wrote: post #113

Between this and Shazeer you guys are idolizing individuals in an unhealthy way IMO. Why are we keeping tabs on researchers moving around? You're talking about them like people talk about the NFL trading players or (football) soccer teams making recordbreaking player transfers. someone further down wrote > Anthropic legit builds one the strongest if not the strongest IC team in the history of computational technology…

>What a weird thing to say. It's not a team sport where you support 'sides'.

It is if you have equity!

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by avdelazeri »

darksim905 wrote: post #38
andrewstuart wrote: post #5

John Jumper what a great name sounds like a video game action hero.

The film Jumper is good fun, though it was a missed opportunity to have this be the character's name. :)

Mainstream tends to clown on Jumper, but I had a lot of fun watching it with my pals back then.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by dewitt »

isodev wrote: post #134

LinkedIn is right there for “career updates”. Nobody really knows or cares about Mr Jumper there. Congrats on his new role in converting humanity’s achievements into slop.

> Nobody really knows or cares about Mr Jumper

There's no place in polite company for comments like this, and you could be trolling. But since you also simply might not know:

John Jumper won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2024 for his contributions to AlphaFold and is a Fellow of the Royal Society. Among the more influential scientists of our time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Jumper

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by mlmonkey »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Here's my read. Take it for what you paid for it ... it comes from a couple of decades of experience in research labs and top companies.

Google appears to be falling behind in the AGI race. The leadership (MBAs) do what clueless leadership always does: they start cracking the whips, bring the knives out. People like Jumper, Shazeer, Dean, etc. are not built for fighting political battles; they're built for solving tough problems! What MBAs don't understand is that researchers at this level put a tremendous amount of pressure on themselves; and this internal pressure is far beyond what any external entity can apply. So, when MBAs start hassling top researchers with "so ... what have you done lately?" and "what are you working on? Is it important?" and "when are we getting AGI (with a smirk)" type of questions, then it feels really really grating: If I knew a sure path to the goal, I would work 24x7 to get there, dammit!

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by mlmonkey »

david_shi wrote: post #71
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

The economics of working at a pre-IPO company that will likely have a successful IPO and a 20+ year post-IPO company are also very different.

He won the Nobel. He made enough from Google to last 7 lifetimes. He does not need the money!

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by mlmonkey »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #39
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Maybe Google doesn't want to pay out billions to a handful of engineers?

LOL ... after character.AI ?

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by mlmonkey »

argee wrote: post #81
make3 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank. It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

Google was famously undervalued at IPO, even relative to its value back then (that is, ignoring the wild upside that actualized). It’s likely not the new Google from a shareholder upside perspective, given the hype.

Google's IPO was a Dutch Auction. It's impossible to be undervalued in a Dutch Auction.
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