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Post by pclmulqdq »

cglan wrote: post #549
oceanplexian wrote: post #539

Yeah, great article. But it should get to the point. The reason you need to physically remove yourself is because of the insane lunatics that blast trash music and do a dance while aggressively panhandling or screaming at you for trying to commute quitely on the train to work. A hallmark of daily life when I worked in SF and in NYC. A great way to fix the fake problem would be to aggressively enforce the existing law…

Coming back to the states after traveling abroad is always astonishing. For all our wealth, it genuinely feels worse than somewhere like Brazil in many of our big cities

The Brazilian government keeps the crime contained to specific areas, where it gets extremely bad. In the US, a generalized lack of enforcement means small amounts of nuisance crime spread around.

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Post by xboxnolifes »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #590
walrus01 wrote: post #51

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It really depends, I would much rather travel by NYC subway or Vancouver SkyTrain or Seattle light rail if my origin and destination are within walking distance. It's the least horrible option in many cases. Good luck to anyone's stress level and pocketbook trying to commute by car in much of NYC and pay $550 a month for parking.

I have a hot take about commuting by car from the suburbs into midtown Manhattan (the densest part). The trick is time of day. If you are a gov't bond trader, it it is pretty normal to get to the office around 6AM. You can easily beat morning traffic arriving that early. Also, your day ends very early, so the return commute is also easy.

That doesn't sound like much of a useful trick, unless you plan on switching professions to bond trader.

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Post by poncho_romero »

saghm wrote: post #606
poncho_romero wrote: post #426

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Some of you are unwell.

If you legitimately think that anyone who isn't extroverted in the same way as you is "unwell", I feel like you could use a lot of therapy yourself.

Saying things like "it's rude to bother people who are in public" (paraphrased) is antisocial and reflective of our time, where people live increasingly isolated and atomistic lives, not of human nature. My point is people who are not open to experiencing the lives of others around them are, as social animals, unwell. It's also worth noting that I don't think this is the fault of any individual (although my initial comment was not clear on this point) but rather of modern society which so thoroughly devalues what is human in favour of what is material and saleable.

Edit: I'm also very much an introvert, FWIW.

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Post by prime_ursid »

basisword wrote: post #391
_the_inflator wrote: post #346

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Exactly. Noise cancelling is a treasure. And what I really like about them is the ease of use. The moment I start talking to someone, automagically the NC is paused as well as any audio you were listening to. It sounds so easy but is really running smoothly. Over time Apple really perfected the workings. This blend is what makes them so valuable for me. I don’t have to manually do anything, simply speak and interact…

>> The moment I start talking to someone, automagically the NC is paused as well as any audio you were listening to. This is one of those features I thought would be great and unfortunately had to disable in minutes. If you ever listen to music and sing along, even for a few seconds, the volume cuts because it thinks you're talking to someone. It's a shame. There's so many really great AirPods features and I feel lik…

> If you ever listen to music and sing along, even for a few seconds, the volume cuts

Yup, and I also have this problem when I laugh out loud listening to comedy podcasts.

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Post by wiether »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #607
wiether wrote: post #603

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> And it all starts to become a bit superficial. I'll never confide in a stranger, so if they want to talk, I'll try to bore them out with superficial stuff. Signed: an introvert.

So you’re wasting both your time and theirs, for no reasons. Instead, try politely signaling you’re not interested. That being said, fortunately it’s easy to see people who like to talk.

I'm having fun doing that to be honest.

But to get back to the topic: that's why I'm wearing AirPods in public now; signaling that I'm not interested.

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Post by embedding-shape »

9dev wrote: post #383
embedding-shape wrote: post #184

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> I don't remember any time in my life where it ever felt normal to me to randomly talk to strangers. [...] And I'm not an introvert! Life's so interesting sometimes! I consider myself an introvert, and I don't remember any point in time where it ever felt abnormal to talk randomly to the humans ("strangers") around you, regardless if you know them or not. We're both humans, why not see who the other one right next t…

why do you consider yourself an introvert if you enjoy chatting with everyone and everything?

I get tired from talking too much with people, and need to rest by being by myself, I guess is the gist of it. Still enjoy it though, like swimming in the sea, tiresome but fun :)

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Post by poncho_romero »

saghm wrote: post #605
poncho_romero wrote: post #424

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What is the public if not the space where we interact with others?

The place between my house and all of the other places I might need to go? Is your argument that people should just not go to the doctor or get driver's licenses unless they're willing to interact with every stranger who wants to talk to them lest they be "rude"? I don't understand how you can in good faith claim that needing to do something obligatory outside of their house or apartment is actively opting into socia…

You can simply decline the conversation. It's not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. I'm not saying you have to actively opt into social interaction, whatever that means. I'm saying its reasonable for others to offer social interaction if you're in public.

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Post by poncho_romero »

angiolillo wrote: post #587
poncho_romero wrote: post #430

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I find your negative view of humanity saddening. I think most people are basically good.

That is my experience as well -- most people are basically good. But my personal experience has also been that the sort of people who ignore social cues and try and chat someone up who is wearing headphones while riding public transit or working out are generally less good.

I think there is some truth to that, especially on public transit.

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Post by poncho_romero »

jnovek wrote: post #459
poncho_romero wrote: post #418

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Skill issue I'm afraid ;) (Said as someone who used to feel the same way, before I discovered the joys of talking to strangers.)

I don’t mind talking to strangers, I’m actually a very chatty and genial person. Some would even say that I don’t know how to shut up. I just don’t want people (strangers or otherwise) to interrupt me at times when I don’t want to talk. My question is, why do you think you’re entitled to consume strangers’ time?

I think we see things differently. I view conversation as an offer, with no expectations either way. Whereas you seem to put more weight on it, I'd guess because the ADHD you mentioned in another comment means interruptions are more impactful for you. I'm not sure there is a way to bridge this gap, because for me (based both on my understanding of modern psychological research and personal experience), a world without talking to strangers is a much impoverished one emotionally and spiritually. I'm afraid I'm willing to throw your mental wellbeing out with the bathwater on this, though I feel bad about doing so.

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Post by aurmc »

mrinterweb wrote: post #513
_the_inflator wrote: post #346

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Exactly. Noise cancelling is a treasure. And what I really like about them is the ease of use. The moment I start talking to someone, automagically the NC is paused as well as any audio you were listening to. It sounds so easy but is really running smoothly. Over time Apple really perfected the workings. This blend is what makes them so valuable for me. I don’t have to manually do anything, simply speak and interact…

> And people now don’t feel neglected when you keep the Pods in your ear. I disagree with this. Pods in ears are essentially a "do not disturb" sign for most people. Being around people who regularly have the "do not disturb" sign feels neglecting. People who might initiate conversation don't know if they will even be heard if they try to talk, so why bother. I would rather be alone than in a room of people who are a…

The automatic switching from noise canceling to transparency mode really does work incredibly, and I'm still shocked at how well it works, but it still feels ridiculous to speak to someone with AirPods in my ears. Even if I know that transparency mode is on (and on the newest Pros, it's so good that I can barely hear a difference between it and not wearing them), it still feels rude to speak to someone with them in.

I always take one AirPod out if I have to say literally anything to anyone, and both come out if it's going to be more than one sentence. Just feels rude. We've someone created a technical marvel: the world becomes silent all around you, and then the world comes back immediately when you start speaking, and then it slowly evaporates around you when you stop speaking for a few moments.

And yet it still feels ridiculous! And rude!

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