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Post by akimbostrawman »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #118
shevy-java wrote: post #97

Win11 may be the best thing for Linux. After all, people who are pissed by Win11 may eventually change operating systems. Now if only Linux were to offer a useful GUI ...

Linux doesn’t define a GUI. I think you mean ”Now if only there were a distribution of Linux that implemented my personal idea of what a GUI should be.” To which, I bet someone does. If you think Windows nails all the right ideas, there is Mint.

Yes, however KDE plasma is much closer to modern windows and makes it look like a toy.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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zormino wrote: post #363
raincole wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It has been polished and ready since at least 2019. Linux people said things like this in 2019 too. It's always "been improved a lot in the past few years" (not saying this statement can't be true.) At this point I'm convinced that no matter how much or little Linux desktop is improved, its market share is solely dependent on how much Microsoft fucked up.

I actually agree, Linux is well past the point a minimally tech competent person can use it fine, but it doesn't solve the fact that even if Linux was flawless, there is still a switching cost in time, relearning a new system, and worst (best?) of all of you decide you are willing to do all of that now you can get entirely lost in the weeds picking a distro. I used Linux all through university, then went back to wind…

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Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by hdgvhicv »

Suppafly wrote: post #427
raincole wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It has been polished and ready since at least 2019. Linux people said things like this in 2019 too. It's always "been improved a lot in the past few years" (not saying this statement can't be true.) At this point I'm convinced that no matter how much or little Linux desktop is improved, its market share is solely dependent on how much Microsoft fucked up.

>Linux people said things like this in 2019 too. They've been saying it since it was competing with Windows XP at least.

I find it hilarious. I’ve been using Linux for over 25 years and people keep telling me “now it’s ready”

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by hdgvhicv »

grebc wrote: post #340
justsomehnguy wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part of these success stories when Nautilus can,t replicate some functionality which Windows has since forever, eg copy-pasting tex and files across 3 RDP sessions deep. Sure, someone who uses their computer as a glorified SSH terminal with an occasional Google.Docs edition wouldn't see a problem, but I, who works everyday - do.

The only people who I’ve ever known to use tex are honours students & academics. Comedy gold saying that’s work .

I used latex on occasion for about a decade after graduation, but now it’s only my CV I use, and I’m getting rusty. Markdown is far more covienient.

Never used Tex specifically.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by hdgvhicv »

int_19h wrote: post #411
9x39 wrote: post #291

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>Why, exactly, would a forced change of habits be for my own good? At the personal level, it wouldn't be. It makes a lot of sense, and I do the same with Fastmail. At the corp level where it's often in M365 cloud, you've got hard limits from Microsoft on one hand (100GB primary mailbox - period), and corporate data retention limits on the other. Legal often has strong opinions on how long you are allowed to retain em…

I don't recall any kind of retention limits at Microsoft, at least not for engineers. My mail archives went all the way back to my hire date even 15 years later.

My company moved to a 3 year retention for legal purposes a few years ago. Somewhat annoying from a nostalgia point of view when I’d get mails pop up from 2095, but everything I need has been in jiras for the last 10 years.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by PeterStuer »

modriano wrote: post #288

Up until 2019, Windows was my daily driver and had been for the prior ~20. years. I had been regularly ssh-ing into Linux machines, but it didn't seem like a place I could live. Then, in 2019, I built a PC and, wanting to get more proficient in Linux environments, I made it a dual boot setup with a Ubuntu desktop partition and a Windows partition, expecting I'd inevitably get frustrated on the Linux partition by side…

I found AI (Claude) to be extremely effective in setting up, managing and maintainimg Linux, just like it was in managimg Windows for those of us incapable of memorizing 1.000's of Powershell commands.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by thepra »

There's also an unresolved bug when a certain email is both coming from an on-prem exchange and at the same time is used as a registered account at Microsoft, outlook seems to have continuous disconnections and prompts to login into the Microsoft account in outlook rather than sticking to the already logged in exchange email. Frustrating to say the least.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by frollogaston »

bluedino wrote: post #119
lbriner wrote: post #100

They have enough employees to build native apps that run super quick but are still seduced by the web portability argument which, as we all know, is mostly untrue even now and which introduces all kinds of non-deterministic latencies/errors, which cannot all be handled neatly. To be honest, this is the same in almost all apps that have any more than 10 developers working on them (my estimate!). Death by dependencies…

> They have enough employees to build native apps They'd screw those up as well.

But they didn't, Office was native for Mac and Windows and was done pretty well

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by frollogaston »

eudamoniac wrote: post #251
lbriner wrote: post #100

They have enough employees to build native apps that run super quick but are still seduced by the web portability argument which, as we all know, is mostly untrue even now and which introduces all kinds of non-deterministic latencies/errors, which cannot all be handled neatly. To be honest, this is the same in almost all apps that have any more than 10 developers working on them (my estimate!). Death by dependencies…

The platform is not the issue. Competent engineering teams could blow this out of the water with a single threaded jquery web app.

Idk, Gmail got really slow too. Also how do they not have infinite scroll in 2026?
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