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Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by Joe_Cool »

Plasmoid2000ad wrote: post #95
netsharc wrote: post #5

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program). Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

Lot's of enterprises are enabling whitelisting of apps launching using some sort of tooling - I think Microsoft provides one, and CrowdStrike etc. It's likely the delay involves a call to a backend application or even sometimes a web server. This would be on top of real-time scanning of every file before it's opened.

Microsoft has AppLocker (since Win7, I think). If you give it a curated whitelist it's actually quite alright and manages well via GPO. (until you manage to lock yourself out ;) Much less overhead than any 3rd party tool that hooks the kernel.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by Joe_Cool »

someguyiguess wrote: post #138
projektfu wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, that has improved, but there's still a weird bug where multiple instances of the calculator will spawn for no reason at all.

The calculator in Windows 11 still takes several seconds to load for me.

Probably a cache thing. Win11 precaches a lot of stuff if you hover over it or have excess RAM. It's not as smart as SuperFetch and ReadyBoost (with an HDD) was but it's still doing similar things.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by Jcampuzano2 »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #63
patates wrote: post #8

> Outlook is based on WebView2, and like all web apps, it’s slow Fastmail also has a web based email client, which is as fast as (if not faster than) Outlook Classic. The new Outlook is just bad. Load order is wrong, it renders everything on every window, loads unnecessary data, etc. Plain annoying.

IME running the new outlook in an actual web browser (through outlook.office.com) is waaay faster than the heavy (heh) client. Bonus points for it running fine on Linux, too. I understand there are some missing features compared to the old one (can't recall which), but for basic corpo emailing it works perfectly for me. I now have 0 reasons to use Windows at work, so, for once, I'll nonironically cheer MS for a job w…

Same experience when I worked somewhere using outlook.

I exclusively used the web UI because it always ran faster for me, except for a small number of things it couldn't do.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by diegolas »

froindt wrote: post #137
criddell wrote: post #51

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Sounds like something is wrong with your system. My work machine runs Windows 11 and it's fully up to date. Notepad starts pretty much instantly.

The best demonstration of the delay is typing Calc in the Win+R Run dialog. There's a difference between instant and "way faster than Word". On Windows 7, you could hit enter and immediately start typing numbers and it would work. I have never worked on a Windows 10 or 11 machine where it launches instantly. I get a similar lag when launching Notepad. Not a huge disruption to the day, but annoying to see on a simple…

in windows 11 i launch calc from win+r and it opens right when i hit enter. the delay is not from the launch dialog/OS but from the app (i use windows 7 calculator, i've replaced it because i don't like win 10+ calc design)

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by oasisbob »

criddell wrote: post #152
froindt wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best demonstration of the delay is typing Calc in the Win+R Run dialog. There's a difference between instant and "way faster than Word". On Windows 7, you could hit enter and immediately start typing numbers and it would work. I have never worked on a Windows 10 or 11 machine where it launches instantly. I get a similar lag when launching Notepad. Not a huge disruption to the day, but annoying to see on a simple…

That one is a little slower for me too - about 700 ms (it's a difficult thing to time with a stopwatch).

The iOS app "Is it snappy?" Is great for things like this.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by projektfu »

someguyiguess wrote: post #138
projektfu wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, that has improved, but there's still a weird bug where multiple instances of the calculator will spawn for no reason at all.

The calculator in Windows 11 still takes several seconds to load for me.

It seems that some Windows computers are generally laggy with no good reason. I could recommend installing Old Calculator.

https://winaero.com/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-window...

It was a little difficult setting it up so that the calculator key on the keyboard pulls it up but aside from that it works well.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by Joe_Cool »

navigate8310 wrote: post #105
FinnKuhn wrote: post #23

The "free" version of outlook that replaced Mail is so bad that it made me finally switch to Thunderbird and I don't see myself going back anytime soon. The only thing I'm missing sometimes is the Copilot integration, but copy and paste with Thunderbird is still faster than using Copilot in Outlook...

When I was using Thunderbird on Windows back years ago, i abandoned it in a week because it was absolutely slow when fed with years of archives as compared to Outlook 2010. Seeing recs for Thunderbird recently says something for sure.

I really like Betterbird. It's basically ESR Thunderbird + a few fixes.

If you want mail to just work and updates going smoothly it's the solution.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by emdash »

bonoboTP wrote: post #77

Why are you not on thunderbird yet? Why do you get Windows notifications? Are you using Windows? I don't understand how there are people who can notice such things but still use windows in 2026. Also, please don't write with AI. This post was written with AI.

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