"Free market", "free market", "free market"! When we are winning
"Tariffs", "bans", "national security", "ban, ban, ban"! When they are winning
Cute capitalism is ruling the US.
US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
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#533Earlier quoted context omitted.
China is not digging through my social media in order to find a reason to cut my grant funding. China isnt going to pull me over for speeding in montana only to examine my phone to see whether i am maga enough to get off with a warning. And china isnt at o'hare security scanning for anyone with skin darker than freshly fallen snow. China may be evil, but it is a far away evil that doesnt have a physical impact on my…
… the one closet to your canoe is loudly warning you of the dangers of the one still on the bank
AKA don't worry about an imminent death threat! You might get seriously ill decades from now! Worry about that instead!
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#534Earlier quoted context omitted.
In terms of price-to-productivity, nothing will beat DeepSeek right now. For what you have described, all of the existing frontier models will perform well (probably about the same even). If you expanded the list to very hard research tasks, Fable was so far ahead of the others that it doesn't even deserve debate. If you are a researcher doing something involving scientific computation or mathematics that wasn't reje…
I'm an engine programmer in video games on a big project - recently I'm mostly just fixing bugs. And Fable has been absolutely phenomenal in those 2 days we had it lol. It was genuinely the first time I didn't really have to reproduce a bug to fix it - Fable was able to really understand the code and interconnections between the systems to reason why it might have happened and fix it. Opus really struggles with that…
Do you need to push internally to get access to these LLMs for writing code, or is mgmt aggressive and supportive?
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#535Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using laws to ban competitors is just economic warfare thats all. Its got nothing to do with "national security", thats just the reason they give us normies. You should be safe in Australia since they actually need to be friends with China.
What? Every country has the right to freely decide which companies are permitted to operate under its jurisdiction, and exercising that right isn’t “warfare” of any kind.
I think the country that talks the most how the market regulates itself and needs no state intervention isn't the most qualified to put tariffs and block other countries from trade. And yet here we are…
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#536Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an engine programmer in video games on a big project - recently I'm mostly just fixing bugs. And Fable has been absolutely phenomenal in those 2 days we had it lol. It was genuinely the first time I didn't really have to reproduce a bug to fix it - Fable was able to really understand the code and interconnections between the systems to reason why it might have happened and fix it. Opus really struggles with that…
Do you need to push internally to get access to these LLMs for writing code, or is mgmt aggressive and supportive?
We have unlimited access to Claude and its use is very much encouraged across the entire organisation.
Re: US holds off blacklisting DeepSeek, more than 100 firms deemed security risks
#537The US is slowly becoming more like China. From talks of nationalizing companies to make US state owned entities to banning foreign competition. It's just so strange how you become the thing you fear.
> The US is slowly becoming more like China. Hah, if only. Then at least it would see some of the benefits too. Instead, it's making sure to only copy all of the downsides, with zero of the upsides.
This is the kind of flippant remark that does the gravity of the situation a disservice. Nobody burns witches out of the blue one day, they do it because they figured out that burning witches makes everyone afraid to do anything that could be remotely construed as witchcraft, and they all start being good little church attendees.
So I hate to break it to you but you're not fighting powers-that-be who are just bumbling around and decided to randomly be like China one day. You're fighting powers-that-be who did the analysis and decided that being like China was the right way to go, for the good of everyone, and they backed it up with math and logic. You're going to need math and logic to convince them otherwise.
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You don't even need to step foot on US soil for the US to be a risk to you c.f. Kim Dotcom
The same Kim Dotcom who was arrested in Germany, extradited from Thailand to Germany, and most recently has been parroting Russian propaganda points about Ukraine? The same one whom the New Zealand legal system has allowed to exhaust every legal avenue and remains free to this day? There are much better examples to use to showcase the US's extrajudicial/international reach than this guy.
Laws are ultimately defined by the boundary and edge cases.
The godly person, doing no wrong, that through unfortunate circumstances, is brought before the court does not advance our understanding of a law.
It's the messiest case, by unscrupulous persons, in unconscionable circumstances that ultimately decide if the execution of that law gives the public more or less rights than on initial interpretation.
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#539Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same Kim Dotcom who was arrested in Germany, extradited from Thailand to Germany, and most recently has been parroting Russian propaganda points about Ukraine? The same one whom the New Zealand legal system has allowed to exhaust every legal avenue and remains free to this day? There are much better examples to use to showcase the US's extrajudicial/international reach than this guy.
>and most recently has been parroting Russian propaganda points about Ukraine Yeah but is that a jailable offense though? What about his freedom of speech? Or should we just lock up everyone who says things we don't like?
Not jailable. But I'm absolutely free to disregard moral agency of mr. Kim Dotcom and stop paying attention to whatever he says or what happens to him as a result of his support for warring Russia.
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>and most recently has been parroting Russian propaganda points about Ukraine Yeah but is that a jailable offense though? What about his freedom of speech? Or should we just lock up everyone who says things we don't like?
Not jailable. But I'm absolutely free to disregard moral agency of mr. Kim Dotcom and stop paying attention to whatever he says or what happens to him as a result of his support for warring Russia.
Would you be OK if everyone else disregarded the laws to see you punished for things not illegal?