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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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It’s the same modus operandi as private equity but worse, because Broadcom has the money and technical resources to do interesting things with the technology, but they don’t.

KKR bought Avago, which bought Broadcom and took the name. They are a PE firm

I think KKR sold Avago/Broadcom years ago but the same CEO and private equity mindset is still there.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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And it has no US comparison. The tesco meal deal concept, the literal wall of choices, just doesnt exist in north america. I did a big work trip to the UK a couple years back with over 100 people. I tried to explain meal deals and nobody believed me. Then our people basically stripped the meal deal shelves of the tesco express beside our hotel.

What's so unbelievable about meal deals? It seems like a really straightforward bundle purchase.

A sandwich, bag of crisps and a drink for £5 is an actual deal. Sandwich alone in U.S. would be $10 and the “$15 Meal Deal” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #118

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What's so unbelievable about meal deals? It seems like a really straightforward bundle purchase.

A sandwich, bag of crisps and a drink for £5 is an actual deal. Sandwich alone in U.S. would be $10 and the “$15 Meal Deal” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Incorrect. Maybe you familiar with the high cost of living areas. There are similar $5 deals in the United States. The US is a big place and has many, many businesses offering very similar deals.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Great time to migrate off VMware. All the migration paths are well-trodden by now, but goddamn 40k vm's. A lot of work ahead.

I work at Red Hat and a customer moving 40k servers off VMware is a fairly regular occurrence. It'd be one of the larger migrations but certainly not unusual. We can usually do about 500-1000 guests per day once the migration is fully underway after the initial engagement and a qualification period where the VMs get scoped for anything unusual / difficult to move. It's all based around open source projects virt-v2v a…

Trading Broadcom for IBM... what could go wrong?

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I don’t know how anyone can afford these migrations especially for production on prem workloads without building literally duplicate sets of hardware clusters then manually migrate workloads.

The 40k servers are probably made up of multiple redundant vSphere clusters with failover. You simply take one of those redundant clusters and migrate one half of it over. Then the other half. Then duplicate that process. As you build more compute in the new stack, you can decomission more and more of the old stack and convert it. The transition would progress like a cascade, with larger and larger groups of clusters…

> You simply take one of those redundant clusters and migrate one half of it over.

For that half you are migrating, you are essentially operating without redundancy. If these are serious production workloads, the tradeoff is not as simple as you make it seem.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's so unbelievable about meal deals? It seems like a really straightforward bundle purchase.

A sandwich, bag of crisps and a drink for £5 is an actual deal. Sandwich alone in U.S. would be $10 and the “$15 Meal Deal” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Mmh, you can get 3 el cheapo sandwiches for 1.99€, a 100g bag of chips for 0.99€ and a liter of water for 0.90€ or flavoured /coke for 1.99€ in Germany

Considering a £ is more then a €, supposedly at last - it doesn't sound like a good deal to me

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #19

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I work at Red Hat and a customer moving 40k servers off VMware is a fairly regular occurrence. It'd be one of the larger migrations but certainly not unusual. We can usually do about 500-1000 guests per day once the migration is fully underway after the initial engagement and a qualification period where the VMs get scoped for anything unusual / difficult to move. It's all based around open source projects virt-v2v a…

Trading Broadcom for IBM... what could go wrong?

Openshift Virt is fully open source under a BSD license, so you now have legal options to move to a competitor or even manage it yourself (although I wouldn't recommend the latter, even I don't manage OSV myself).

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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there is no risk since spring boot is open source. any attempt at milking spring-boot will lead to forking it into OpenBoot or something

support contracts ? if your spring-boot version is 2 releases behind etc. You use extensions that are [VMWare Tanzu Spring Enterprise Extensions]

Claude Code is your best support contract

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #91

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https://www.bailii.org/

That’s judgements (What the judge said) The filings by the parties are made public in the USA and other countries. So you can actually see the arguments and evidence.

I wonder how the register (the source for this article) managed to even get the information for their article...

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #121
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KKR bought Avago, which bought Broadcom and took the name. They are a PE firm

I think KKR sold Avago/Broadcom years ago but the same CEO and private equity mindset is still there.

Wikipedia's ownership section on broadcom is stale 2024 data but back then at least 10 investment firms and banks owned about 40% of it.
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