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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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What are you talking about? Judicial filings in the UK are not generally confidential and when they are it is usually only about specific documents.

In USA you can go on a website and download the filings for PDiddy or Tate or whoever Show me the uk website. Oh what’s that? There isn’t one you say… There is a lot that goes on that the media and the professionals involved don’t speak about.

https://www.bailii.org/

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I don’t know how anyone can afford these migrations especially for production on prem workloads without building literally duplicate sets of hardware clusters then manually migrate workloads.

We usually reuse the VMware hardware and (most importantly) file storage. Some additional hardware is required temporarily so you can build out initial Openshift nodes. The VMware nodes are decommissioned and converted to OSV nodes as the conversion goes along. With some kinds of file storage (cough NetApp) the conversion is zero copy, the VM literally stays where it is. With others we will copy to new NFS storage areas which will be provisioned on the same physical hardware.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Spoke to a senior guy at a large national bank recently who swore that they will never again get any Broadcom hardware. He talked about "Broadcom lies.."

I’m sure they don’t care. They were pretty up front when they bought VMware what the play was

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I don’t know how anyone can afford these migrations especially for production on prem workloads without building literally duplicate sets of hardware clusters then manually migrate workloads.

I don't work at this level, but there's lots of things you can do.

a) you migrate in increments, so even if your migration needs to run old and new to compare, you don't need to do it for everything at once.

b) you probably have some slack, and you can make slack by packing tighter during migration.

c) you probably have some amount of regular hardware refresh. Retaining the old hardware a bit longer can get you more headroom for migration.

d) some servers can probably take an extended maintenance outage during conversion.

e) depending on everything, you might be able to get short term capacity from cloud or short term leases.

There's almost certainly some automation around migration. Some of it might even work.

Have a plan, make progress... even if you don't migrate everything by the date, you'll have done a lot and reduce the broadcom bill.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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In USA you can go on a website and download the filings for PDiddy or Tate or whoever Show me the uk website. Oh what’s that? There isn’t one you say… There is a lot that goes on that the media and the professionals involved don’t speak about.

https://www.bailii.org/

That’s judgements (What the judge said)

The filings by the parties are made public in the USA and other countries. So you can actually see the arguments and evidence.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Yeah I'm at a place that is kind of sucking it up, but there is a work-stream to move more stuff into the cloud and another work-stream to move more stuff on-prem but Kubernetes running on bare-metal. There's also work to stop using some component of VMware as well.

Sure but whole strategy is "Jack up prices by 500%, cut expenses by 70% and make more money in short term" What about the long term? Who care, massive money made and they can use that to keep going.

They explained that fairly clearly

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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https://www.bailii.org/

That’s judgements (What the judge said) The filings by the parties are made public in the USA and other countries. So you can actually see the arguments and evidence.

You can get court transcripts but (just like the USA) you have to pay for them. Things could be improved, but in no way are normal UK court cases secret as you claimed. You can also visit the courts and watch cases from the public gallery. You're basically wrong and doubling down on it, for what reason I cannot say.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I work at Red Hat and a customer moving 40k servers off VMware is a fairly regular occurrence. It'd be one of the larger migrations but certainly not unusual. We can usually do about 500-1000 guests per day once the migration is fully underway after the initial engagement and a qualification period where the VMs get scoped for anything unusual / difficult to move. It's all based around open source projects virt-v2v a…

Broadcom is acting like a VC. Quickly milk as much as you can then sell the carcass.

They don’t hide this

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I worked in software acquisitions for a large organization and it was really eye opening to see how insane some of these companies are when it comes to pricing customers out. I always wondered - what is the motive? They make pricing structure changes that aren't even considerable for any organization that has any fashion of a budget. VMWare was one example where our already insane costs that had nearly tripled over the previous 4 years were quoted to triple at the end of the period.

Another was a Java SE licensing change that went from around $1k per instance, of which we had about 5. Mind you there is little to no maintenance support provided here. The increase was to $5.25 per organizational employee per instance, whether they used the instance or not - of which we had 100k. The choice was obviously a simple one.

I can only assume very few organization stay on the ride for those kinds of changes, but obviously they must - but why?

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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It's incredible how hard it is for firms to migrate away from platforms. Clearly you could just give something away for nearly free for 20 years and then jack the price up and make bajillions.

Even better if you can charge a mildly high license fee for 20 years first and then jack it up to something outrageous and still have customers who just can't drop you.

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