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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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> Tesco is also dealing with migration challenges related to data security because its new, unnamed virtualization software is incompatible with the Veeam and Zerto products it uses. What is a VMware alternative, that isn't compatible with backup software? I'm guessing it's not nutanix?

OpenShift as an alternative to Tanzu. OpenShift Virtualisation or whatever it’s called for the virtualisation part of VMWare. Used to do those migration in a previous life.

The latter is IIRC rebadged KubeVirt

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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>Broadcom's "strategy" is absolutely baffling to me. I know plenty of Enterprise customers who cannot move easily and just renewed 3 year VMware licenses for their cluster at insane rates. They are planning on moving but I'd be shocked if they complete it. $LastCompany had VMware footprint I know will be very difficult to move off, deployments, monitoring, backups were all dependent on VMware. There are plenty of US…

Yeah I'm at a place that is kind of sucking it up, but there is a work-stream to move more stuff into the cloud and another work-stream to move more stuff on-prem but Kubernetes running on bare-metal. There's also work to stop using some component of VMware as well.

Sure but whole strategy is "Jack up prices by 500%, cut expenses by 70% and make more money in short term"

What about the long term? Who care, massive money made and they can use that to keep going.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Why would you self sabotage such a considerable contract? Are Broadcom stupid?

From the followup article "Broadcom is laughing all the way to the bank" >"Broadcom’s recent $1 trillion valuation is largely related to Broadcom’s expectations of AI" Who needs paying customers when you have AI?

Broadcom has paying customers - they sell chips to companies that have no paying customers.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I work at Red Hat and a customer moving 40k servers off VMware is a fairly regular occurrence. It'd be one of the larger migrations but certainly not unusual. We can usually do about 500-1000 guests per day once the migration is fully underway after the initial engagement and a qualification period where the VMs get scoped for anything unusual / difficult to move. It's all based around open source projects virt-v2v a…

>Broadcom's "strategy" is absolutely baffling to me. I know plenty of Enterprise customers who cannot move easily and just renewed 3 year VMware licenses for their cluster at insane rates. They are planning on moving but I'd be shocked if they complete it. $LastCompany had VMware footprint I know will be very difficult to move off, deployments, monitoring, backups were all dependent on VMware. There are plenty of US…

The extortionate renewal rates I saw as a gift from Broadcom. It made it very easy to price the risk of doing nothing and be sure that the cost of outages during and immediately post-migration would be lower. (Yes, we had a few, due to obscure drivers issues or an app that really wanted a specific CPU or chipset or virtual NIC, and they cost us less than 10%, probably closer to 5%, of what the proposed renewal would have cost.)

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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this is probably another big risk with enterprises going all in on using spring-boot. migrating to quarkus won't save you either - since it's IBM on the other hand. if only other ecosystems could catch up to Java/JVM solutions.

What’s so special about Java/JVM solutions? What is for example the Go ecosystem missing in comparison?

Mostly 30 years of people writing code.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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”Tesco, a retail conglomerate headquartered in the United Kingdom” For any non Uk people, it’s the largest supermarket in Uk. Combination of large stores and smaller high street convenience stores. (2nd largest was owned by Walmart who sold it recently to private equity and so now it’s saddled with debt and being ruined…).

Walmart had already ruined ASDA to be fair, it's not like private equity is doing worse.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Yeah I'm at a place that is kind of sucking it up, but there is a work-stream to move more stuff into the cloud and another work-stream to move more stuff on-prem but Kubernetes running on bare-metal. There's also work to stop using some component of VMware as well.

Sure but whole strategy is "Jack up prices by 500%, cut expenses by 70% and make more money in short term" What about the long term? Who care, massive money made and they can use that to keep going.

They make AI crap. The future is Mars.
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