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Re: U.S. science is in chaos

#801

> whether there are black holes at a redshift of 10 or not is not a partisan issue. Anything that depends on a basic understanding of the scientific process, and resulting scientific facts is absolutely a partisan issue right now.

I’m very familiar with the evangelical types who are running the federal government right now. Anything that doesn’t support the claim that the earth is only 5000 years old is considered a partisan issue to these fuckers.

It seems like they did all this to please Elon Musk and advantage SpaceX. The people at the top are nihilists. They don't even believe the things they say.

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

#802

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Trump's ballroom. Trump's "irs lawsuit settlement fund" The salaries of all the lawyers being paid to justify illegal and discriminatory executive orders. ICE's budget. TSA's budget. "Border Wall" construction costs. Should I go on?

Most of those things a tiny rounding error. Interest and social services are the only thing the government actually spends money on.

You left out military spending. It's kind of a big one.

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

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I don't think requiring prospective hires to write a DEI statement is equally as political as illegally cancelling already funded and approved research into e.g. racial disparities in maternal mortality, or health equity gaps for rural Americans (yes, it's DEI even if it's for predominantly white people).

How is forcing prospective academics to pledge alegiance to the American woke left anything _but_ political? DEI statements were nothing more than obligatory loyalty oaths.

So now we just require them to pledge allegiance to Trump instead.

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

#804

Honestly its been a long time coming. Acting as if academia and ivy leauge level research isn't incredibly sick is dishonest. The PRESIDENT of stanford was fired over forged research. I have personally worked very closely with 2 incredibly credentialed researcher leaders who were very very smart fudge their work. The incentive structure for researchers is completely warped. The honest ones are there but from my exper…

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Re: U.S. science is in chaos

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When words lose their meaning, people lose their freedom. -Confucius I've read that asia is leading the world in scientific discoveries and therefore Mandarin gets the naming rights. That's privilege and the reason English is fleeting

I've read that too. Yet, I've also read stuff like [0]. The truth is probably somewhere it between [0]: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-01902-0

I'm sure they do genuinely have those problems but it's not like Western research has been free of such scandals.

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

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and it's 100% Russell Vought most people know who Stephen Miller is but the real monster is Russell Vought Heritage Foundation's #1 enforcer, the destruction of science and academia is their top 10 If Vance somehow gets the reigns and/or 2028 it will be even worse because Vought will get even more power/control * https://www.propublica.org/article/russ-vought-trump-shadow-... * https://www.propublica.org/article/vide…

At Heritage, in the break room over the microwave, there's a sign: "science delende est."

Surely, you mean over the coals. :-)

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

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Not really, it is different in America, where everyone is utterly car dependent. Raise US fuel prices from barely nothing to barely nothing plus a tenth of a cent and TikTok explodes with Americans sat in cars, junk food in hand, saying some utter nonsense about how crraazy the new gas prices are. Meanwhile, in Europe, where petrol prices have always been vastly higher than what any American has ever paid, if the pri…

Have you considered the fact the majority of the US is not designed for public transit, or it doesn’t exist at all? Most cities aren’t even walkable let alone practical for bike transit due to long distance commutes and lack of infrastructure?“hurrr americans are just addicted to cars” is a really reductive take.

> Have you considered the fact the majority of the US is not designed for public transit, or it doesn’t exist at all?

There exist societies that have made different choices.

The car dependency isn't an act of God.

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I'm in Australia.

For anyone thinking of migrating to Australia, please add to your considerations the increasing groundswell of conservatism and support for anti-immigration and the very recent proclamations of anti-multiculturalism of the newly popular One Nation party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Y2wzmKHEU The next federal election will be interesting as to the direction the Australian public wants to take the country, but it…

But where on the planet are you going to go and escape that?

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

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We need people to be less racist and stop voting for politicians they hope will hurt the right people.

Less motivation for people to be racist if they have their needs met.

I think this is true. When needs aren't met, they are more likely to follow a cult leader.

Re: U.S. science is in chaos

#810
> How did we get here?

Because certain people don't like one or both of these two things:

1) Having to pay tax

2) Having to be accountable to someone, whether they be a government or anyone else

With this in mind, they illegally gutted a bunch of jobs.

They do this for the same reason a dog licks his balls: because he can and no one will stop him.

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