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Both China and the US can compel businesses to hand over data. There is no reason to trust any service that doesn't have strong built in privacy.
It’s not China that is threatening to annex Greenland though.
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It's funny how you can look at obscenely overvalued Western AI companies, with capex's that are unsustainable, and along comes a system which pokes a gaping hole in this model, and the response is "Ya, but what do those sneaky Chinese have up their sleeve here?!" Perhaps the question should instead be "Why are these Western AI companies getting insane valuations on dubious ROI, and how can these Chinese models run on…
>"Ya, but what do those sneaky Chinese have up their sleeve here?!" I feel like that is way over simplified. I do not trust the American government. I do not trust the Chinese government. As an American, I believe the Chinese government has a longer and broader history of stealing intellectual property and far less checks and balances than the American government. The current American administration will be gone soon…
From what perspective? The American colonies repeatedly and flagrantly ignored foreign property and intellectual rights, e.g. via laws to protect domestic but not foreign authors. Samuel Slater was called Slater the Traitor in Britain for a reason.
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How exactly does the fact that this goes through a subsidiary in Sweden change the things you mentioned?
Apparently, whether or not the engineers are Chinese is the deciding factor. as long as Nicklas Backstrom is designing the EV, its all good. Or in other words, Chinese scary!
> Chinese scary!
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> It's quite impressive how the latest years I have found more and more to empathize with China than many of the western counterparts. I'm not sure that this is because China is suddenly a great place or political system so much as a reflection of many western nations speed running to autocracy in the name of manliness.
Moving towards China because of concerns of autocracy is a hilarious concept.
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China is already going as hard as they can on their own GPUs. When has availability of non-Chinese tech in China meant China didn't ultimately come up with homegrown replacements?
It's just my general impression. They banned China from the ISS, China made their own space station. China's making their own x86 chips, their own GPUs. As a fellow wheel reinventer, I admire their audacity. It's the sort of thing that makes me wish my country was like China.
I admire their governance ability to have long term plans.
The sheer scale of their production ambitions in so many fields and their energy build out is insane.
The fact those plans also have subclauses ensuring the party elite are made even more wealthy and powerful is less alluring.
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Free Market vs. planned economy was always mostly talking points, not a consistent ideology imo. Even during the Cold War, American farms were heavily subsidized. The abundant supermarkets were not a product of free markets, they were a propaganda piece. Today the US is pretty far from being a free market. Tax deductions are subsidies. Industry subsidies fund things on the front end, and bailouts are essentially subs…
Most of the things you list don't make a market non-free. A free market can still have government regulation and distortion. In fact it requires it otherwise it will be captured by large players in short order and become non-free as a result. The insulin example I agree is non-free. More generally the entire medical sector is only somewhat free. However I'm not sure that's a bad thing given the stakes and the history…
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/free-market?q=free+market
> an economic system in which prices and wages are determined by unrestricted competition between businesses, without government regulation or fear of monopolies.
By definition, free markets do not have government regulation. If you have an alternative definition of “free market” please feel free to share it.
I use DeepSeek every day (via VSCode Insiders and Zed Editor). It's very affordable and, while it's slightly behind Claude (not sure how far behind Fable), it suits my working style well. I'm not using unsupervised multi-agent workflows and don't need a library of skills files - I'm writing most of the code and leaning on AI to help with mundane tasks - like; - generating types for APIs - generating boilerplate based…
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What's the publicly stated/marketing reason for capitalist America to put companies on the Entity List? Genuinely asking. Because to me it screams 'we were only for the free market until there was no competition'
DeepSeek rose to fame through stolen IP from U.S., and created shell companies to bypass U.S. law. Typical CCP-inspired behavior. The free world needs protection from abusers. I'm sure there's a ton of other abuses they've committed as they race to become China's preferred LLM.
DeepSeek did the same thing the american companies did on a much smaller scale.
They took the output of one company and trained a model.
American companies took the output of all IP they could illegally* acquire and trained a model.
The world does need protection from abusers, you're right.
EDIT: illegal in some cases (see 82TB of torrented ebooks), immoral in most.
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> The abundant supermarkets were not a product of free markets, they were a propaganda piece. The US has abundant supermarkets to this day. It was overwhelmingly a product of the market economy and remains so. The US has between 45,000 and 75,000 supermarkets (75,000 if you include supercenter stores that also sell groceries). That's not counting smaller specialty food stores. It's a product of consumer spending capa…
The US subsidizes the supply side and the demand side. On the demand side, the US spends about $100B on SNAP (food stamps) and another $40B on subsidies for WIC (women infants children) and school lunches. On the supply side, the US is currently directly subsidizing farms $20B and giving disaster relief to the tune of another $30B. If you want to imagine how well the free market in the US would do, just think about w…
So these people should just starve?
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This is a commonly-repeated trope. Full of all the emotional zeal of AI Doomerism, but no accompanying evidence.
How about the $1.5 billion settlement Anthropic agreed to pay authors and publishers: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/technology/anthropic-sett... Several consolidated cases against OpenAI: https://www.bakerlaw.com/in-re-openai-inc-copyright-infringe... And these plaintiffs are representative of only the best-organized and most well-funded of those who believe that these companies stole their data. Countless indep…
The money they paid was for pirating books rather then buying them.