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If Chinese LLMs are successfully making people in the west defend China, then I think we have all the evidence we need to explain why they are giving away their models. The next step of course will be to get people using that ungodly cheap AI on Chinese servers. Which will also be defended because "I would never trust an American Lab".
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Free Market vs. planned economy was always mostly talking points, not a consistent ideology imo. Even during the Cold War, American farms were heavily subsidized. The abundant supermarkets were not a product of free markets, they were a propaganda piece. Today the US is pretty far from being a free market. Tax deductions are subsidies. Industry subsidies fund things on the front end, and bailouts are essentially subs…
> The abundant supermarkets were not a product of free markets, they were a propaganda piece. The US has abundant supermarkets to this day. It was overwhelmingly a product of the market economy and remains so. The US has between 45,000 and 75,000 supermarkets (75,000 if you include supercenter stores that also sell groceries). That's not counting smaller specialty food stores. It's a product of consumer spending capa…
On the demand side, the US spends about $100B on SNAP (food stamps) and another $40B on subsidies for WIC (women infants children) and school lunches.
On the supply side, the US is currently directly subsidizing farms $20B and giving disaster relief to the tune of another $30B.
If you want to imagine how well the free market in the US would do, just think about what would happen if Congress cut off those funds.
So this is the other side of banning American models for non-Americans? And how exactly do they plan on enforcing all of this? Great Firewall of America? This is a complete joke. The malicious clowns behind this should be removed from power and prevented from ever holding any position of power in any form of governance system.
So this is the other side of banning American models for non-Americans? And how exactly do they plan on enforcing all of this? Great Firewall of America? This is a complete joke. The malicious clowns behind this should be removed from power and prevented from ever holding any position of power in any form of governance system.
They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
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Ok I'll bite: what is the obvious thing I'm supposed to be getting from your ellipses? are you implying there is a US-based, third-party provider of xiaomi devices, BYD cars? or are you just referring to hosted providers of those AI models?
> what is the obvious thing I'm supposed to be getting from your ellipses? Well, I'm unsure if it's a correct form of expression in English, but in my native language ellipses can often serve to express speaker/writer feeling of uncertainty about something or some kind of sadness/apathy/similar towards the situation being discussed. It's not about some "obvious thing you should get", sorry for misunderstanding. > or…
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They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
trump just undid the gpu export to china to help jensen make money
Gonna be interesting to see how the ecosystem looks like 2-3 years, I'd be expecting some drastic changes compared to today.
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DeepSeek rose to fame through stolen IP from U.S., and created shell companies to bypass U.S. law. Typical CCP-inspired behavior. The free world needs protection from abusers. I'm sure there's a ton of other abuses they've committed as they race to become China's preferred LLM.
OpenAI and Anthropic also rose to fame from stolen IP from the US. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settl...
The primary goal is growth of wealth and power for the country, and close loopholes whereby enemy nations steal even more from America.
I use DeepSeek every day (via VSCode Insiders and Zed Editor). It's very affordable and, while it's slightly behind Claude (not sure how far behind Fable), it suits my working style well. I'm not using unsupervised multi-agent workflows and don't need a library of skills files - I'm writing most of the code and leaning on AI to help with mundane tasks - like; - generating types for APIs - generating boilerplate based…
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They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
China is already going as hard as they can on their own GPUs. When has availability of non-Chinese tech in China meant China didn't ultimately come up with homegrown replacements?
As a fellow wheel reinventer, I admire their audacity. It's the sort of thing that makes me wish my country was like China.
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They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
China is already going as hard as they can on their own GPUs. When has availability of non-Chinese tech in China meant China didn't ultimately come up with homegrown replacements?