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OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by zormino »

cj wrote: post #124
pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month. If I were really forced to. LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

Agreed. For personal use it's already easily worth $100 a month (to me personally). More probably. For work, it's entirely based on its financial impact for a given role, and for some people/companies it will be worth the cost even at $X thousand per month per seat.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by nancyminusone »

pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I've spent a grand total of $25 on AI ever, so apparently my answer is $25. But I'm not a big time software dev like the rest of you.

When I bought my last GPU, running AI models locally was a consideration though not the only one, and I have it set up but haven't used it much yet. I mostly use the free tiers of ChatGPT or Google to write the occasional script for me. I guess they're going to have to inject a truly unfathomable number of ads to get their money's worth.

I have a feeling my experience is closer to an average persons' than a dev, but it doesn't seem like they'll be able to monetize just from devs even if each one is spending thousands a month.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by hansmayer »

cj wrote: post #124
pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month. If I were really forced to. LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by vb-8448 »

pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

For personal use not more than 30$/month.

For work, it depends, but if I have to spend more than a few hundreds bucks probably I'll start looking for alternatives (local models, Chinese providers, ecc)

PS: I'm in Italy, I guess in several parts of the world these figures are even smaller.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by Gigachad »

sunsunsunsun wrote: post #116
themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

They need marketing because they have competition that essentially offers an identical product. Why should a consumer choose openai over anthropic or whatever else there is? The answer is not obvious.

OpenAI will make fully autonomous killing machines while Anthropic wont.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by gonzalohm »

cj wrote: post #124
pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month. If I were really forced to. LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

That's crazy. Can you provide some examples?

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by flux3125 »

pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

Max 60 bucks a month. More than that and I'd just move to local qwen 35b or some other cheaper model on openrouter.
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