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OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by rpdillon »

simianwords wrote: post #99
dgellow wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really not convincing. I personally don't care much about predictions, nobody is an oracle who can predict the future. If someone looks at SpaceX, talk about the financial engineering that went in the stock, then predict incorrectly that the price will go down, the meaningful information isn't the prediction, it's the analysis. The price might never go down due to how insane and detached from reality the stock…

> I personally don't care much about predictions I don't know what to say other than I now know the audience Ed Zitron writes for.

Hang on; You said financially and technically illiterate. You didn't just say the predictions were inaccurate. GP is asking for evidence of illiteracy.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by henry2023 »

tomlockwood wrote: post #111
themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

I've seen lots of ads saying I should use chatgpt to plan a workout or give me recipes. Thats apparently the killer app for 95% of the population at this point.

Don’t forget changing the background of a picture. This alone can triple the GDP.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by holoduke »

During the internet bubble collapse in the 00s quite some companies went bankrupt. But that's actually a good thing. It doesn't stop progress. It creates new opportunities and new baselines. Same will happen here. AI will not be less or gone or reduced to useless. It will become better , bigger and faster.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by cj »

pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month.

If I were really forced to.

LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by tomlockwood »

henry2023 wrote: post #122
tomlockwood wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen lots of ads saying I should use chatgpt to plan a workout or give me recipes. Thats apparently the killer app for 95% of the population at this point.

Don’t forget changing the background of a picture. This alone can triple the GDP.

Practically printing money!!!

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by sorry_outta_gas »

pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by parliament32 »

themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

They are paying influencers to pretend they use LLMs, and discredit Chinese models: https://www.wired.com/story/super-pac-backed-by-openai-and-p...

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by malux85 »

cj wrote: post #124
pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month. If I were really forced to. LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

I would probably still pay if the cost doubled, but I would also look at competitors, offline solutions, etc

We have benchmarks on our domain and it does there are models that are 2x to 10x cheaper for a small drop in percentage points in accuracy

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by cammikebrown »

cj wrote: post #124
pluc wrote: post #117

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?

I’d easily pay multiple hundreds. Possibly a thousand a month. If I were really forced to. LLMs provide me about the same value as a car does.

Paying a thousand a month for a car is also very stupid.
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