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The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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Being on the other side of the AI machine changes the perspective of whether it is dangerous or not, I guess.

the coming IPOs will possibly create several billionaires. Standing on the top of a billion dollar pile would definitely change your perspective.

Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anything of the previous things they claimed.

OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?) This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.

OpenAI is much more eager to jump on board with the administration than Anthropic is, Altman is a lot of things, but he definitely knows which wheels need grease.

Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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"Nicholas Carlini recently rang the alarm about the dangers of AI—and now he’s part of a team arguing for the latest models to be released" Many such cases, he was just hungry.

Isn’t that how Anthropic started? Raise alarm bells and ride the hype train.

Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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The AI labs look rather naive here. You can’t jump up and down screaming how amazing, powerful, and dangerous your new tech is and then act surprised and annoyed when the government shows up looking to regulate it. Their new argument now seems be that this was marketing hype/fluff that backfired, in a pretty obvious and predicable way, and now they’re trying to reset the conversation.

I’m way more concerned about the loons willing to throw absurd amounts of money at the clearly naive individuals.

Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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post #9

The AI labs look rather naive here. You can’t jump up and down screaming how amazing, powerful, and dangerous your new tech is and then act surprised and annoyed when the government shows up looking to regulate it. Their new argument now seems be that this was marketing hype/fluff that backfired, in a pretty obvious and predicable way, and now they’re trying to reset the conversation.

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Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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post #5

These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anything of the previous things they claimed.

OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?) This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.

I don't really think they're acting on a grudge against Anthropic here, I think it really is on Anthropic for describing the model's capabilities the way that they did.

IIRC Anthropic claimed to have been working with the government on securing things with Mythos, but then they seemed to have been blindsided by this.

My read is that the guys making the decision to restrict it were not the ones that Anthropic had been working with, and it's more about Anthropic getting caught between infighting within an incoherent government.

Re: The hacker sent by Anthropic to calm the government's nerves about AI safety

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post #5

These are the consequences of fear mongering as hard as they did. You reap what you sow. Now they need to convince the government that they didn't mean anything of the previous things they claimed.

OpenAI is also guilty of excessive fear mongering (remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release?) This isn't 100% Anthropic's fault, although I'm sure that's part of it. This is the current corrupt administration executing on a grudge they have against Anthropic, and the government's new found love of picking winners and losers.

> remember GPT 2 is too dangerous to release

FYI, this was when Dario was still at OpenAI.

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