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Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

Once again I have to let people know about glide[0], fork of Firefox. I know a lot of people here like keyboard-driven and scriptable software, and glide shines at both. Keyboard control in it is so so much better than the extensions for Chrome or Firefox, and I'm quite happy how easily the API allows me do my own customizations. (as an example when I open HN in new tab with my bind ,sn , if I already have HN front p…

This seems like a nice project, I tried it out. Scroll is so much smoother than vimium. Sadly, it doesn't seem ready for daily use yet:

1. Hint detection seems much more fragile than vimimium. For example, some links don't get a hint when pressing f on their own :tutor page.

2. The ctrl+, shortcut to focus doesn't work always, requiring a mouse click to start working again.

3. Pressing tab doesn't autocomplete in command mode.

And some other minor quirks.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

Well, you see Firefox isn't entirely perfect, so I'll just continue using the worst web browser out there until someone finally makes the perfect one...

The worst one being Chrome or its Microslop copycat?

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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A lot of sites serve their ads from the same domains as their actual content nowadays. So if you really don't want to ever see ads again, you need something at the application layer.

"A lot of sites serve their ads from the same domains as their actual content nowadays." What are some examples I observe the contrary among the sites submitted to HN Without access to other subdomains and other domains plus a Javascript interpreter, the ads and tracking don't work

Google's sponsored results, ads from streaming services.

Usually when the website is not part of an ad network, but instead runs their own ads.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Well, you see Firefox isn't entirely perfect, so I'll just continue using the worst web browser out there until someone finally makes the perfect one...

The worst one being Chrome or its Microslop copycat?

Internet Explorer 6

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

I'm a big fan of WaterFox! I switched when Firefox decided to add a ton of AI crap without providing a "turn this crap off" button (you could force it, but I don't want to fight my tools). Really good experience, been recommending it to all my friends. Librewolf is also good, and I use that on one of my other machines. I like Waterfox a bit more, but that's probably just personal taste. Both are solid and both cut th…

Even before the AI stuff, Firefox was showing sponsored links on my new tab window by default. It's not enough to make me switch, but not a good first impression if I were new to it.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

Firefox already lost the browser wars. It's about 2%. Saying "you can use uBlock Origin instead of uBlock Origin Lite!" won't change this.

How much does it actually matter that Firefox uses a different engine from Chromium? I would imagine you can just use a fork of Chromium that supports uBO or whatever else Google dislikes, and there are already browsers like that. Maybe cause Google could move Chrome to closed-source so the others gradually get outdated?

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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post #120

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Firefox already lost the browser wars. It's about 2%. Saying "you can use uBlock Origin instead of uBlock Origin Lite!" won't change this.

Apple market share (whether by hardware or operating system) was that low for awhile there and by some estimates OSX even dipped down to 2.29%: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ And that doesn't even count the dark years of OS9 in the '90s. Have they lost the operating system wars?

Apple did lose the desktop OS war. But that became less important on the desktop itself because of the browser ;) and also mobile, which is btw where the largest competitor to Chromium exists. It was still important though. Windows is huge leverage in all sorts of B2B areas like Azure.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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"Backed by tech companies" Yup, huge red flag. Non-profit is the long-term way to go.

The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit, but people still find creative ways to crap all over them for some reason. Someone else in this thread said they were "supporting the closed internet" by sending search queries to Google.

Yup, this kind of criticism happens all the time. It's good to point out -- but a lot of people treat it like a deal-killer, which is the height of naivete.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Is it time to run every document we download through a sandboxed local LLM to clean it up on the fly? How long then before the ad tech companies start prompt injecting?

What a strange leap. There's rather a lot we can do to keep regular adblocking going and we don't have to just accept what Google deigns to give us. Wasting a bunch of GPU power to have an LLM hallucinate which parts of a page to delete hardly seems like a solution to me.

It was mostly an absurdist comment. I can squint and see this sort of thing coming though.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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What? https://www.firefox.com/en-US/mobile/focus/ The only thing I use Firefox on iOS for *is* its ad blocker.

I use it on iOS daily and there’s no ad blocker. The page you linked only mentions tracking blocking. If you actually have ad blocking enabled, I’m sure a lot of us would love to hear how you did it.

It was originally pitched as a "distraction blocker" and it works in two modes. As a browser and as a content blocker, if you enable it in Safari's extension settings. I've still got it set up as a content blocking Safari extension (you find that in Settings -> Apps -> Safari -> Extensions) and it still seems to be blocking ads for me. Maybe not as many as it once did, but I just turned it off to see, and that made an unpleasant difference.

I think I've been using it for 10 years (or so) now. It's my favorite thing Mozilla has done on iOS.

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