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Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by sturadnidge »

michaelpinto wrote: post #37
DigitalSea wrote: post #24

BOOM. It's moves like this that are going to ensure that Windows 8 prevails in the end. I hate to make the comparison, but Microsoft's only competitor is Apple and now that Jonny Ive is helping out with the design aspects of not just the products but interfaces, Microsoft have forced Apple's hand so-to-speak. I doubt we'll be seeing Apple make a web-based touch interface for building applications, but it'll no doubt…

Microsoft's competition isn't just Apple, in fact I would say that their real competition is Google/Samsung which seems to be replacing what was Microsoft/Intel. Also while easy to make apps is a great idea, sadly it may not be a game changer. If you look back at HyperCard it was a cool product, but it didn't save Apple from almost going under by the mid-90s.

>I would say that their real competition is Google/Samsung

Having just picked up one of the new ARM based Chromebooks, I am inclined to agree. Until now I have never fully appreciated how complete Google's offerings are, from paid apps in the Chrome web store to paid movies on YouTube... to say nothing of the inventory size of both.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by tluyben2 »

This is a re-release from MS their secret weapon; http://rise4fun.com/. MS research is really good and they are working on important things other companies ignore. I think Norvig is not ignoring them but working on them from a totally different angle which will roll out in the coming years, but that's offtopic.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by recoiledsnake »

nemoto wrote: post #21

TouchDevelop Wep App Preview does not work with Opera. Please use Internet Explorer 10, Chrome or Firefox. Why?

Well, I am an Opera user too, and I was happy to see that they did not say use a modern browser like Google tends to do.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by frozenport »

cageface wrote: post #26
nemoto wrote: post #21

TouchDevelop Wep App Preview does not work with Opera. Please use Internet Explorer 10, Chrome or Firefox. Why?

There's always a post like this. Who gives a shit about Opera at this point? It's hard enough making a complex web app work on IE, Chrome and Firefox as it is.

When they take away opera they will take away firefox, then they will take away the next one. One day we will all be using chrome.

I think they should warn about compatibility but allow us to proceed anyways. Often when I spoof opera to identify as firefox everything works fine. The `built only for this browser` scheme treats the browser as the platform and not the internet as the platform. I understand the practical motivation for perspective, having spent many hours making sure my design worked in IE and Firefox, but I dream of a world where every-browser will render things identically.

Ultimately, its called a webpage not a chromepage.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by modarts »

jwarzech wrote: post #20

I've only really seen screenshots of metro but this app looks like a bad recreation. Are the colors usually that bright and are the fonts that padded?

This is admittedly poorly executed and doesn't really follow a lot of metro conventions.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by cageface »

frozenport wrote: post #45
cageface wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's always a post like this. Who gives a shit about Opera at this point? It's hard enough making a complex web app work on IE, Chrome and Firefox as it is.

When they take away opera they will take away firefox, then they will take away the next one. One day we will all be using chrome. I think they should warn about compatibility but allow us to proceed anyways. Often when I spoof opera to identify as firefox everything works fine. The `built only for this browser` scheme treats the browser as the platform and not the internet as the platform. I understand the practical…

Not buying this slippery slope argument at all. Nobody has ever cared about opera. Wake me up when people stop supporting Firefox.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by JuDue »

mahmud wrote: post #30
DigitalSea wrote: post #24

BOOM. It's moves like this that are going to ensure that Windows 8 prevails in the end. I hate to make the comparison, but Microsoft's only competitor is Apple and now that Jonny Ive is helping out with the design aspects of not just the products but interfaces, Microsoft have forced Apple's hand so-to-speak. I doubt we'll be seeing Apple make a web-based touch interface for building applications, but it'll no doubt…

I think you're being a little too optimistic here. There is no shortage of web-IDE or foo-Touch on any platform. They're all poping up for all the platforms at the same time, this is not some edge Windows 8 has over other platforms. (If there is any edge at all, it's probably Visual Basic 5.0 or later) Windows 8 will succeed not because it has a web-based toy for making toy apps, but because people still want to run…

Agreed, there are lots of tools like this around.
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