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Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by tomasien »

nemoto wrote: post #21

TouchDevelop Wep App Preview does not work with Opera. Please use Internet Explorer 10, Chrome or Firefox. Why?

Because developing on that many web standards when the other three have such a huge market share is unnecessarily onerous.

Not supporting one browser or another is rarely if ever a stand against that browser, it's just a decision based on living in reality. I've used and liked Opera in the past, but I've never once tested so much as a web page in Opera since I stopped using it as my primary browser.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by tomasien »

novalis wrote: post #17
w1ntermute wrote: post #6

This was a very smart move on Microsoft's part. They recognized and accepted the fact that almost all the developers behind the most popular apps on Android and iOS are running OS X. Releasing an OS X IDE to cater to those developers would have been admitting defeat to Apple in that arena, so they cleverly sidestepped the issue by just creating a web-based IDE instead.

Could you please provide some hard numerical reference that shows that "almost all the developers" that produced "the most popular apps on Android and iOS are running OS X". That would be a great cross referenced treasure trove of data. It seems absurd and borderline illogical that one does not come to have contact with such a fountain of proof that supports the stated inference. This would be an invaluable source. T…

I'm not saying that asking for hard proof is ever a bad thing, but I will say that it's not illogical to make this claim without.

Anecdotally, I know exactly 1 programmer TOTAL that does not use a mac laptop when they develop out of the dozens that I know, and he just got hired at Microsoft. I know several that use Windows desktops, but exactly 1 that doesn't have a mac laptop.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by DigitalSea »

BOOM. It's moves like this that are going to ensure that Windows 8 prevails in the end. I hate to make the comparison, but Microsoft's only competitor is Apple and now that Jonny Ive is helping out with the design aspects of not just the products but interfaces, Microsoft have forced Apple's hand so-to-speak.

I doubt we'll be seeing Apple make a web-based touch interface for building applications, but it'll no doubt force them to consider something because Microsoft are starting to make me even consider trying to build an app. And out of a C based language and web based builder, which has the lesser learning curve?

Very smart move. Well played, Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by amima »

camus wrote: post #18

Uncaught SyntaxError: Variable 'handler' has already been declared that's what i get when i try to run that thing.

They definitely need some js error tracking tool (like qbaka.net) to handle errors. Their main javascript size is 420K!

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by cageface »

nemoto wrote: post #21

TouchDevelop Wep App Preview does not work with Opera. Please use Internet Explorer 10, Chrome or Firefox. Why?

There's always a post like this. Who gives a shit about Opera at this point? It's hard enough making a complex web app work on IE, Chrome and Firefox as it is.

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by nikolaitillmann »

amima wrote: post #25
camus wrote: post #18

Uncaught SyntaxError: Variable 'handler' has already been declared that's what i get when i try to run that thing.

They definitely need some js error tracking tool (like qbaka.net) to handle errors. Their main javascript size is 420K!

Thanks for the recommendation. We (I am in the TouchDevelop team) have an excellent crash tracking system in place, and whatever issues you see today might be fixed tomorrow. If you are curious how we build TouchDevelop, you can watch this video from a session at the recent Build conference: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/3-018

Re: Microsoft releases tool for creating Windows 8 apps in the browser

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Post by mahmud »

DigitalSea wrote: post #24

BOOM. It's moves like this that are going to ensure that Windows 8 prevails in the end. I hate to make the comparison, but Microsoft's only competitor is Apple and now that Jonny Ive is helping out with the design aspects of not just the products but interfaces, Microsoft have forced Apple's hand so-to-speak. I doubt we'll be seeing Apple make a web-based touch interface for building applications, but it'll no doubt…

I think you're being a little too optimistic here. There is no shortage of web-IDE or foo-Touch on any platform. They're all poping up for all the platforms at the same time, this is not some edge Windows 8 has over other platforms. (If there is any edge at all, it's probably Visual Basic 5.0 or later)

Windows 8 will succeed not because it has a web-based toy for making toy apps, but because people still want to run Windows95 applications.

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