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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I have two questions, if anyone has any advice. 1) What's a reasonable Pixel phone to buy to try out GrapheneOS? Is a 128GB Pixel 7 "good enough" or will I get a significantly better experience with a newer phone and/or more storage? 2) Is there a Graphene alternative that would let me de-google an Samsung A12? Back in the day I had some Galaxy S3 and S4 phones that I installed Lineage on, I have no idea if that's co…

1) any currently-supported device is good, but i'd say go for minimum pixel 8a if you can it ships with Memory Tagging Extensions (armv9 security feature) and two more years of support than previous generations; pixel 7 might be eol in oct 2027 https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime official recommendation page: https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices 2) there is no real graphene alternative for other devi…

Thanks! (And thanks to the others responding here too.)

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Years ago I looked into GrapheneOS, and I ultimately didn't go with it because, at least at the time, they only supported pixel phones (specifically pixel phones that Google actively had security updates for). I realized that if I got that OS, I would be at the mercy of Google supporting the device in order to continue using GrapheneOS. In the end I just opted out of the android ecosystem altogether and went with a f…

I would highly recommend LineageOS. Supports non-Pixel phones, some of them many years old (although now that I double check, the Galaxy S3 and OnePlus One aren't on the devices list anymore, I guess they do stop supporting old stuff eventually...). The OnePlus 5 is still supported and was released in 2017. For anything older than that, I guess I'd recommend looking into postmarketOS.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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There is no FOSS modem. The baseband is a separate computer operating on a lower level than the OS. Your provider can run arbitrary code there.

I thought the PinePhone community had succeeded in making custom firmware for the modem in the PinePhone, though I'm not sure of the legality of actually using it. Plus both PinePhone and Librem 5 had a killswitch to disconnect the modem at least.

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Just having to take your phone with you is quite comfortable. Your phone is probably the pocket-sized item you are unlikeliest to lose.

True, but I also need my license to ride my motorcycle or drive a car, plus cash needs to go somewhere.

The perks of living in a city with good public transport

+ my country already has a mobile driver's license app

And most places take card (or nfc via google/apple pay)

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A pity that GrapheneOS works only on Pixel and those phones are trash for me (no microsd support). I have a 1.5 tb microsd card with all media/books and it is easy to move to another phone by just swapping the microsd card so this is one of the most important features for me.

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I have tried ubuntu on mobile only once and never come back, because it had very bad and poor experience compared to native experience of that mobile. On which models this system works the best?

GrapheneOS is highly usable and compatible with nearly all Android apps. It has a similar experience to a mainstream Android OS if you choose to set it up that way such as using sandboxed Google Play in the main profile (which does not ruin what it provides at all, it's a perfectly valid setup). The purpose of GrapheneOS is to provide far better privacy and security than the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). AOSP is a lot more private and secure than a traditional desktop OS including one ported to mobile.

See https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices for the device recommendations. There are going to be Motorola devices with GrapheneOS support within a year too.

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Graphene made me like using a phone. It behave like a computer. Really lovely

I can say the same. Been using LineageOS and GrapheneOS for most of my life. Some things are not super convenient (I generally dont install non-free-software applications and don't have Google Play services enabled), but the rest of the experience is great. No crashes, no bugs, no unexpected behavior. Currently I'm using the Pixel 9 Pro XL.

I can also recommend Gadgetbridge for BLE smartwatch integration.

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