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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

#181
I own a z fold 6.

If I try Graphene what do I lose? Similar to how if you use something like icefox or icewolf one of those very secure browser, lots of normie websites like banking just straight up don't work. What would I lose by moving away from samsung's default to this more private OS?

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

#182
post #60

I've been thinking it might be worthwhile to showcase that you can make GrapheneOS look beautiful or the same as stock Pixel UI. When I was considering switching from iPhone I had this misconception that it would look ugly or wouldn't look the same as Pixel UI, which is not the case at all. When I asked about it I wasn't given this clearcut answer that you can make GrapheneOS UI look the same or better than Pixel UI.

How much flexibility is there in changing appearance? As an iPhone user, I really like what Oppo is doing with their ColorOS: https://www.oppo.com/nz/coloros16/

Wow that looks nice. I don't think you can get that.

You can change any apps to different apps meaning the keyboard, homescreen/launcher, messaging app. The launcher is a primary UI thing which is different from iOS and is totally customizable by just installing a new app.

So you can change the look of anything that depends on an app, but stuff like the control center, lock screen, volume sliders, connectivity icons, notifications afaict can't be changed.

https://niagaralauncher.com is a cool looking launcher that I used to use.

It's a little confusing but I'll say there's nothing ugly like the stock GOS apps that can't be changed and tha unchangeably UI elements match the Pixel UI.

Here's a comparison which will show both the unchangable stuff like control center, but also the Pixel launcher, which you can swap out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwNicPJk4lY

I switched from iPhone and once I installed good looking apps I really prefer the look to iOS because it's a lot faster and smoother.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

When I got a new phone last year, I purposely got a Pixel (open box 9a) to put GrapheneOS on it immediately. Been happy living the de-Googled Android life since. I was sad that I had to go through the OOBE setup on the stock image to unlock the bootloader. At least it doesn't force an internet connection and login, unlike Windows.

While the OOBE of the stock image doesn't force an Internet connection, the ability to unlock the bootloader does - whether you can do it or not depends on the phone manufacturer's desire, and Android for some reason uses an Internet connection to check that.

My understanding is that it is impossible to unlock the bootloader on a new recent (Android 7+ at least; possiblt earlier) Android phone until it has connected to the Internet. After that, the ability to unlock the bootloader is permanent.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

#185
post #117

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What you are describing is not Google’s alturism but keeping competition in check. If Google didn’t “allow” GrapheneOS it opens up a new market segment for other smartphone manufacturers. Apple really cashed in on privacy for a few years so it’s not unfathomable that Xiaomi or someone else goes all in on “privacy focused android” in absence of pixel+graphene combo. Edit: Apparently Motorola is doing just that.

> Apple really cashed in on privacy for a few years Apple didn't "cash in", their marketing dept made sure privacy/security engineering got just enough budget to pull off miracles & then spend even more to successfully make the public forget about the very nasty Celebgate.

> Celebgate

That was a phishing campaign, not a breach.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #83

What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

Cash for most things, and just use a card like normal otherwise. I don't really see the appeal of contactless payment, pulling a card out really doesn't take much time.

Google Pay (Google Wallet) actually also has virtual number so my real card number won't leak in many cases.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #66

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Google Authenticator works?

I think Google authenticator implements the standard OTP which lots of apps (including keepass) should support. Microsoft uses their own propietary crap

You can try to add the standard OTP even for Microsoft crap. If it asks you to register for mfa and opens the screen that says something about downloading the Microsoft authenticator app there is a small link at the bottom, letting you use another app. Then you get a qr code that you can scan with any other auth app.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

#190

I own a z fold 6. If I try Graphene what do I lose? Similar to how if you use something like icefox or icewolf one of those very secure browser, lots of normie websites like banking just straight up don't work. What would I lose by moving away from samsung's default to this more private OS?

You can't install Graphene OS on Samsung phones.
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