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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #43

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> The Pixel was never sold in my country Okay, see, that's an important thing to add to your original post. Saves everyone a lot of time. If they don't sell them in your country, it's not "no thank you" as you said, it's "this doesn't apply to me".

I don't see how it's relevant. I couldn't possibly have made it any more clear I would not buy a Google device, new or used, because I don't like Google.

I am not sure why you even consider an android based OS then.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #70

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Yes, you install the Google Play store via the GrapheneOS App Store. The OS comes with like 5 apps out of the box. The rest is up to you. Biggest caveats that I've encountered: tap to pay via Google Wallet is a no go, Android Auto can be flaky, MDM managed work profiles don't work at the moment, and some apps that use the Google Play integrity API fail to validate and refuse to work (I've only encountered one app tha…

Tap to pay is mostly NFC? So is there an alternative app?

There's Curve Pay in Europe. In the US, I'm not sure.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

I used to dread the promised deep system integration of AI, but honestly after setting Claude up on a server box and having it do sysadmin stuff for me that I've been putting off for ages I see the vision. I don't really want to mess with the details of working through system orchestration tasks, I want to say "spin up this service" and start using it, "change my config so X happens" and it does, and knows what needs…

Yes, Google famously uses their most advanced technology to make your life easier and not to look up your nose with a scanning electron microscope

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I had been using LineageOS + microG for many years on my Pixel 3. I upgraded to a Pixel 8 and tried out GrapheneOS and the install experience was good, but I found some odd performance quirks - apps would be slow to install and run, downloads were slow, etc. Has anyone had similar issues?

Many apps that work on microG don't work in GrapheneOS without installing Google services anyway. I'm by no means across the full privacy implications, but my feeling is microG balances privacy and usability better for me.

I've since switched back to LineageOS+microG and am happy with it. Just my experience.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you install the Google Play store via the GrapheneOS App Store. The OS comes with like 5 apps out of the box. The rest is up to you. Biggest caveats that I've encountered: tap to pay via Google Wallet is a no go, Android Auto can be flaky, MDM managed work profiles don't work at the moment, and some apps that use the Google Play integrity API fail to validate and refuse to work (I've only encountered one app tha…

Tap to pay is mostly NFC? So is there an alternative app?

Yes you can use Curve pay.

Edit: Apparently that's Europe only? I'm in Europe so yeah. I didn't know that.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #62

What does it mean for an OS to be ported to another OS? Do they mean "ported to devices that support Android"?

It means they rebased all their changes on top of the new version. This is usually time-consuming because AOSP is not developed in the open, so you can't do this incrementally as things change -- you just get a massive drop sometime after release.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #62

What does it mean for an OS to be ported to another OS? Do they mean "ported to devices that support Android"?

Android makes yearly releases. It is developed in cathedral-style. Google releases the source as a single big update. GrapheneOS is a fork. They need to port their customizations and extra software on top of the new release.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #62

What does it mean for an OS to be ported to another OS? Do they mean "ported to devices that support Android"?

Think of GrapheneOS as being a set of patches on top of the Android Open Source Project that Google releases:

https://source.android.com/

They've ported the patches to work on top of the latest release.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #66
post #57

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I too, liked it. However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS. https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

Google Authenticator works?

I think Google authenticator implements the standard OTP which lots of apps (including keepass) should support. Microsoft uses their own propietary crap
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