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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Yep, toxic garbage staffed largely by same. Unfortunately, it has amassed quite a bit of potentially useful information.

You don’t need an account to access the information. It’s also all been sucked up my the LLMs, for better or worse.

It's full circle now and a large portion of posts and comments are now LLM generated responses, whether by a bot or copy/pasted by a human.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Hide My Email is fundamentally broken in two major ways:

1. Services those emails are used with cannot unilaterally send email to them. They must pre-register how they will send email to them, which breaks services with third-party relationships such as online retail with payment processors or shipping companies.

Users don't like not receiving shipping notifications, and users don't like not seeing invoices or at worst missing bills and going into debt because the payment processor can't contact them.

2. Users signing up for services struggle to re-use accounts. If the account is identified by email, as most are, figuring out the private email used when you signed up on your iPhone, when you later try to sign in on the web, basically impossible for your average user. Users end up with mulitple accounts, likely one on their real email anyway, and it's a support nightmare for both the user and the service provider.

Does this increase user privacy? Yes. Does it increase user control? Sure I guess. But it does so at the cost of basic UX and service expectations, and likely makes the overall experience and control worse for users in many cases.

So why is this change being made? My take is that it's so that it's easier for services to exclude Hide My Email sign-ups. That way the bad UX is gone, and the service provider looks like the bad guy rather than Apple.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I've been running my own mailserver on a firstnamelastname.com domain for nearly 15 years. As far as I can tell, nobody blocks it. Google sometimes rejects emails where the from address doesn't match the real sending address, which is fair. I guess the first couple of years were rocky, I hadn't figured out DKIM and SPF and all the other blood rituals yet. Back then I got blocked by Steam and banks. But ever since I s…

I did that too years ago, but the management of it was kind of annoying. DKIM was just getting introduced when I stopped using it. SPF had controversy. I understand both of those are awesome now. The biggest issue was if your ip address got listed in a RBL (Realtime Blackhole List), and then nobody would talk to you. Some were easy to get off, others were permanent blocks, and I found those to be constantly interferi…

Most RBLs are scams. No competent mail admin uses them to block mail ever.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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My dog thinks it's because we're running low on milkbones, but my cats aren't convinced.

ah. techcrunch must have alluded to you not having milkbones https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/16/apple-plans-to-change-its-...

The TechCrunch article said Apple turned over the real account information. And the older article said this was in response to a request. Not a warrant. Hide My Email hid nothing from the Trump administration in this case.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Spammers know to just cut out the +whatever. It's a simple regex to keep those from even getting into a database.

The + has no special meaning in the standards, and thus removing it will just result in invalid addresses in many cases…

Doesn't matter. Most email services[1] use it the way Gmail does and spam is a numbers game. Losing a few valid addresses is worth correlating all those other addresses for most spammers.

Standards only matter to nerds like us.

[1] https://proton.me/blog/what-is-email-alias#5

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Nah. I have hosted my domain for 17 years on google and then fastmail. The hosting is harder than private relay, although not too hard. But I have only had maybe 3 services ever reject my domain, and those were because the domain contains a number.

I've had some reject my e-mail address because it contains their company name. REI was one (ie it wouldn't allow rei@domain.com but would accept reicoop@domain.com)

Should have registered as rei-are-incompetent-idiots@ instead…

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

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Seems like we have a meeting of the minds here. You don't want me as a customer and I don't want you as a vendor (or payment processor). Enjoy your spamming :)

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Hide My Email is fundamentally broken in two major ways: 1. Services those emails are used with cannot unilaterally send email to them. They must pre-register how they will send email to them, which breaks services with third-party relationships such as online retail with payment processors or shipping companies. Users don't like not receiving shipping notifications, and users don't like not seeing invoices or at wor…

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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COUGHredditCOUGH

I think Reddit falls under this category. > If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

I know I have created accounts on Reddit with disposable email services before.
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