Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#2> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail.
Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#3If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#4I would bet that doing so would be a pretty quick way to have your app pulled.
They already require that you use Sign in with Apple, I would think that it working fully is also a requirement?
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#5> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail. Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?
I guess their thought process is, both alias and non-alias accounts use @icloud.com
You were always able to reserve a normal icloud email address just like you would a GMail account, so banning all icloud email addresses would be banning non-alias Apple customers
That being said, I'm not convinced anyone who wanted to ban aliases couldn't have already. The alias emails look weird enough I'm guessing you could ban them with few false positives.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#6> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail. Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?
Before, the emails were "me@icloud.com", the default for all apple users. There was no way to distinguish normal emails from generated private emails.
Now, they will be "blah@private.icloud.com", so it will be easy to ban the generated/private email that reduces the ability to associate logins across services.
Unclear why Apple would shoot themselves in this way; I hope it's not Ternus complying with anti-privacy.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#7If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.
Unfortunately sometimes we are at some specific provider’s mercy for whatever reason like lack of appropriate alternatives.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#8> If you use iCloud+ and Hide My Email, there is still time to generate more aliases on @icloud.com as the change has not yet landed and the rate limit for creating aliases is at least 30 per hour.
Part of the reason to use Hide My Email was that it made keeping myself private hassle-free. Making a system to pre-generate values and then catalog them for later use is quite the hassle.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#9I would bet that doing so would be a pretty quick way to have your app pulled. They already require that you use Sign in with Apple, I would think that it working fully is also a requirement?
Hide My Email isn’t particularly related to apps. You can use it on any web form that asks for your email address, or as the sender of any email message you send using Apple Mail.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#10I would bet that doing so would be a pretty quick way to have your app pulled. They already require that you use Sign in with Apple, I would think that it working fully is also a requirement?
You can use Hide My Email on any website though, whereas Sign In with Apple is limited to just those websites and apps that support it. Sign In with Apple isn't nearly as popular on the web, so it's a lot easier to just ban "@private.icloud.com" from your web service there.