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The person mentioned it like it's a feature for them, but I haven't heard of it being anything other than a marketing gimmick, so I was curious for their perspective.
GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…
We took control, we're keeping control
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#83What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
I don't really see the appeal of contactless payment, pulling a card out really doesn't take much time.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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I don't see how it's relevant. I couldn't possibly have made it any more clear I would not buy a Google device, new or used, because I don't like Google.
I am not sure why you even consider an android based OS then.
Graphene adds many privacy features on top of regular AOSP. But it only works on phones that has good security features that are not woefully outdated or completely closed-off. Google has complete control over Pixel supply chain and they can make their phones with all bells and whistles for their ends and they behave a bit benevolently and expose the interfaces to the user too.
Most Android phones use Qualcomm which doesn't give a flying fuck about giving control or privacy to the users.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#86What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
Garmin pay if you're ok with Garmin is one possibility.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#87That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#88So I still need to buy a Google phone to get it? No thank you.
To get a sense of the project and its goals I recommend reading this post[1]. Buying a used Pixel is economical, environmental, and likely doesn't support Google. Pixels are the only secure and open android devices that could work for the project and meet the extensive requirements[2]. This is because GrapheneOS takes real steps to protect user privacy and security, not features that degrade security and don't increa…
That said, Google's hardware is behind their competitors and they've had a lot of problems in the past few years. The Pixel 8 Pro has hardware WiFi problems, the 9 and 10 are both minor updates with prices that are far too high, the 10 is eSIM only, etc.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#89What does it mean for an OS to be ported to another OS? Do they mean "ported to devices that support Android"?