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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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The person mentioned it like it's a feature for them, but I haven't heard of it being anything other than a marketing gimmick, so I was curious for their perspective.

It just has a Faraday cage and blocks radio signals. That's it.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…

We took control, we're keeping control

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

Cash for most things, and just use a card like normal otherwise.

I don't really see the appeal of contactless payment, pulling a card out really doesn't take much time.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I don't see how it's relevant. I couldn't possibly have made it any more clear I would not buy a Google device, new or used, because I don't like Google.

I am not sure why you even consider an android based OS then.

Because AOSP is open source and can be built without Google Play running at the background unlike the other alternative: giving up privacy to yet another big tech Apple.

Graphene adds many privacy features on top of regular AOSP. But it only works on phones that has good security features that are not woefully outdated or completely closed-off. Google has complete control over Pixel supply chain and they can make their phones with all bells and whistles for their ends and they behave a bit benevolently and expose the interfaces to the user too.

Most Android phones use Qualcomm which doesn't give a flying fuck about giving control or privacy to the users.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

Garmin pay if you're ok with Garmin is one possibility.

They have an app for Android that can do NFC? I thought it was only for their watches. Thanks!

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.

AFAIK Motorola only lets certain geographical regions to unlock bootloader, not everywhere.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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So I still need to buy a Google phone to get it? No thank you.

To get a sense of the project and its goals I recommend reading this post[1]. Buying a used Pixel is economical, environmental, and likely doesn't support Google. Pixels are the only secure and open android devices that could work for the project and meet the extensive requirements[2]. This is because GrapheneOS takes real steps to protect user privacy and security, not features that degrade security and don't increa…

It makes sense that an open source project would focus on one series of phones since their time and resources are limited.

That said, Google's hardware is behind their competitors and they've had a lot of problems in the past few years. The Pixel 8 Pro has hardware WiFi problems, the 9 and 10 are both minor updates with prices that are far too high, the 10 is eSIM only, etc.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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We took control, we're keeping control

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TBF if Google locked down the devices like that it would be a GPL violation. Not their first or whatever but still, there's a reason for them not to do that beside "being nice"
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