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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#21

Shameless plug - I created a chrome extension that allows to create unique email addresses that forward to your real inbox. It uses Cloudflare email routing, simplifies creating/labeling of new addresses and keeping track of them. Always 1 click away. The addresses are pre-allocated and recycled when deleted so creating a new one is faster that with Apple's hide my mail. https://github.com/webmonch/hide-my-mail-cloud…

Doesn't owning the domain kind of defeat the point?

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#22
Determined sites could already easily do this. Just detect the patterns used. I agree it's a useless change though.

heave_balks_0g@icloud.com

It shouldn't matter for the sign in with apple because sites are already expressly supporting that.

Email aliasing is hard because you want privacy from a herd of users, but then you're locked into that ecosystem versus a domain you control has no herd, but the upside is no lock-in.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#23

Shameless plug - I created a chrome extension that allows to create unique email addresses that forward to your real inbox. It uses Cloudflare email routing, simplifies creating/labeling of new addresses and keeping track of them. Always 1 click away. The addresses are pre-allocated and recycled when deleted so creating a new one is faster that with Apple's hide my mail. https://github.com/webmonch/hide-my-mail-cloud…

With cloudflare you can also just setup catch-all and be done wirh it.

I personally doing catch-all already, but problem is that using your own domain for website registration basically gives everyone unique id to eaaily connect all the information that ever been leaked for your accounts and something always gets leaked.

Not a very good idea for privacy.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#24

If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

Yes but not always applicable unfortunately… e.g. the other day I was in Italy, I needed to park on the publicly available parking which was paid to the municipality.

No other parking available anywhere near in 30 mins walking distance. (paid or free)

I had to download a 3rd party app that asked me to register. This app isn’t by the Italian government, it’s affiliated though.

So in that situation, I want nothing to do with your website or app, because I wouldn’t able to park.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#25
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately sometimes we are at some specific provider’s mercy for whatever reason like lack of appropriate alternatives.

COUGHredditCOUGH

IDK I’ve appreciated Reddit killing off good features like old version, putting a time-lock banner on mobile while logged out, trying to block VPNs when logged out, etc.

I want that company devalued and bought by Verizon or AOL to die a Yahoo death.

What is insane to me is how few people realize their stock has a higher P/E than nVidia… and it isn’t because of some bullshit minor AI data deals. It’s a youth-forward narrative machine, and everyone knows it.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#26

Determined sites could already easily do this. Just detect the patterns used. I agree it's a useless change though. heave_balks_0g@icloud.com It shouldn't matter for the sign in with apple because sites are already expressly supporting that. Email aliasing is hard because you want privacy from a herd of users, but then you're locked into that ecosystem versus a domain you control has no herd, but the upside is no loc…

> Determined sites could already easily do this

They already DO do it, I don't know how they're currently determining it

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#27

Oh fuck. I love Hide My Email and it's been the best feature about iCloud ever since it came out. It's actually useful compared to Gmail's useless "yourrealaddress+alais" that gives away your actual email anyway, and it helped me catch quite a few spammers/data sellers. Hide My Email addresses already have a peculiar format that others could guess, and some do block those, and there's no reason to add a blatant "priv…

FWIW it's not a gmail thing for privacy, but rather just part of the email spec. RFC 5233 talks about it.

https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5233/

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#28

> If you use iCloud+ and Hide My Email, there is still time to generate more aliases on @icloud.com as the change has not yet landed and the rate limit for creating aliases is at least 30 per hour. Part of the reason to use Hide My Email was that it made keeping myself private hassle-free. Making a system to pre-generate values and then catalog them for later use is quite the hassle.

Yep, but I still generated some for myself just in case and fellow hackers can do the same if they want to.

iCloud+ was the best $1 / month custom domain email and email alias service with 100GB of E2EE cloud drive.

Obviously it will be sad to see it enshittified for seemingly no reason.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

COUGHredditCOUGH

IDK I’ve appreciated Reddit killing off good features like old version, putting a time-lock banner on mobile while logged out, trying to block VPNs when logged out, etc. I want that company devalued and bought by Verizon or AOL to die a Yahoo death. What is insane to me is how few people realize their stock has a higher P/E than nVidia… and it isn’t because of some bullshit minor AI data deals. It’s a youth-forward n…

RedReader still works. For now.
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