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Post by mort96 »

kuschku wrote: post #508
mort96 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look I'm just a dude who happened to land on DO a decade ago due to podcast ads and now wants to move away from it. Not due to prices but because I would prefer a European alternative. I didn't bring up Russian spies and I don't know if there's any validity to that story, I just don't want to upload passport pictures to random services. Their competitors don't require it. I'll probably find the time and energy to mov…

DO gave students $100 credit. Then required me to upload my passport, which they rejected. Then required me to pay $5 via PayPal just to verify me. Two weeks later they removed all the credit they had provided, without any warning period. I emailed them and explained that if something was provided without any stated validity period, EU law requires at least 3 years before it can expire. They suggested I delete my acc…

That sounds pretty bad.

I don’t “defend DO”, I just use it for now; but as someone whose opinion on DO is at least neutral-to-positive, it is that way because I have never experienced what you did nor even read about similar experiences before. Your experiences don’t automatically impact my opinions without any form of communication.

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Post by CGamesPlay »

Aeolun wrote: post #436
esskay wrote: post #211

Getting close to losing any point of them existing. They were the cheap one. You take that away and their unique offering vanishes and makes them pretty pointless to even consider as a provider. Really hope they can sort out something for their hardware sourcing as this isn't sustainable.

Yeah. If Hetzner prices are equivalent to AWS, what is the point in choosing them.

Don't forget to count your EBS and egress fees when you make your AWS spreadsheet.

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Post by kopirgan »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #515
TylerE wrote: post #492

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Wouldn't they have most of that just from customs/your passport? Not saying it isn't all rather dystopian, but, like, they have your ID as soon as you hit an airport.

Added surveillance bonus(!) at Mainland Chinese airports: When doing international to international transfers, you are required to have your passport scanned. I have never seen this in free countries. You just wait in an international terminal (no customs, etc) and take the next flight. I am curious if CCP will require HK Airport to change their rules/procedures in the future.

In Singapore Changi, the arrival and departure are at same gate so you can just sit and wait for next flight. Passport is checked before you get into next flight at the gate where they check your boarding pass as well..right there your bags are also scanned (at each gate or group of few gates)

Just transited in HKG, the gates are same but boarding at different levels. So you clear the security at a common area, get same PP checks done then go to departure gate which is one level above. IIRC Qatar etc are the same.

But PP checks do happen in both cases.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

ryandvm wrote: post #280

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With all the AI stuff available everyone, does anyone actually work any less? 4 hours per day instead of 8? Or even less? More vacation days? Anything?

I know a bunch of people who have integrated AI into every aspect of their life, and somehow they all have even less free time than before.

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Post by kopirgan »

id00 wrote: post #490
kopirgan wrote: post #476

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Can you explain? What sort of surveillance that affects a casual visitor?!

Here is my experience in the center of Shanghai, very subjective of course: - I can't pay with my credit/debit cards there so I need to get their alipay pay app. There is KYC required to upload my government ID. - We stayed in a short rent apartment, so we had to temporarily register with government. Of course that requires uploading photos of me, my kids, and all our IDs - with a lot of apps banned there, you are es…

Interesting...although most of these are present in any country, at least the ones I have been to. You can use Google in India but not Tiktok (to give one example). Earlier Singapore used to have proxy server for websites but for a long time, that is gone but I guess that's cos they have found other ways to check if they need to. Crackdowns on private condos becoming hotels with guests dragging their luggage and strangers in lift 24x7 have created a lot of trouble in many cities.

Credit card seems too much...have not seen that anywhere.

As for playgrounds etc, I guess this is to do with China being still lower income + much more densely populated.

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Post by jacobsenscott »

ryandvm wrote: post #280

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The upside will mostly be the schadenfreude we'll get when, coming in Q4 of this year, the managerial class is finally called on to show ROI for the $100,000+ (depending on company size) per employee they shunted to anthropic and openai.

Sure, the world will still burn, and the economy will collapse, and the managers will still blame the doers. But it's something.

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Post by jm4 »

I use a cheapo VPS there to host some git repositories. It's going from $6.99/mo to $20.49. Who in their right mind would pay that for a 2 core/2 GB VPS? It makes me wonder if they are trying to shed some unwanted customers.

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Post by ksec »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #465
ksec wrote: post #430

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>(world's first trillionaire anyone?) With some work on crypto many people could be a trillionaire on paper. Whether it translate to actual wealth and liquidity is another matter. We are talking about P/E of 300 / P/S of close to 100 for Tesla and SpaceX. >When exactly are the upsides going to hit? A lot of people take Moore's law, or technology improvement as granted. It will always come. It will always become cheap…

Sure would be nice if we got to see any of that, instead of it all going solely to resource guzzling data centres selling opaque models whilst simultaneously destroying the pricing for local hardware!

>Sure would be nice if we got to see any of that,

We are only 1 to 2 year into a cycle and we expect a lot of things to happen. Even the business decisions of things were decided before the cycle happened, as if they are fortune teller or God, the hardware lead time would meant it will be next year at best before we see results. And Nvidia has already moved at a faster pace than most imagined. Latest GPU R&D are now fully amortised on the AI server front. GPU now move to leading edge node faster than before and iterate on a shorter cycle. I have yet to read a single comments on either HN, Reddit or wider internet that appreciate this.

And as to NAND and DRAM, which most people are concern. We only need a few companies to commit to long term ( 3 - 5 years ) agreement on pricing and quantity, DRAM and NAND will increase supply or new fabs accordingly. This isn't new and is exactly what Apple did with iPod. But no companies wants to do that, as they all want lowest price and little commitment, while foundry don't want to bare the risk of new fab and over supply in the long term. This is just classic commodity supply and demand scenario.

On a simpler terms, no one asked why Toilet paper companies aren't putting up more factory just to output more paper rolls during COVID. And If you need 5 to 10 years just to earn back the cost of additional supply line, why risk that?

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Post by urda »

eugenekolo wrote: post #42

It really is an absolute massive jump. Have no clue what's going on in the back to warrant a 3x increase... 25-50%, sure.. but 3x is wild.

It's so bad I will be looking at moving off Hetzner at this point. 3x is too much.
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