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Post by marlovovic »

zenapollo wrote: post #53

Contabo, an even cheaper alternative to Hetz, raised prices this month as well by 30-35% as well. Just noting it here because i couldn’t any info elsewhere.

Interesting, but still very good pricing compared to the enormous increases we now see at Hetzner (plus the increase before that one). I'm wondering if they have more hardware on stock and/or better means of hardware supply.

I have a few more or less idle VMs running at different providers, and keeping an eye on the european VPS market it seems that many struggled, while contabo is relatively stable. E.g. ovh at times limited the buying process to 1 instance (now it is at 5, not sure what was the default before) and also available locations were limited at one point a few weeks back.

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Post by omnimus »

ianberdin wrote: post #282

I say hello to every happy HN and twitter post “we moved to hetzner and saved 10X”. I told ya about silent happiness…

You are saying that like it's some kind of rag pull. This is situation of the market. The people who moved still saved the money and are still saving money because Hetzner is still cheaper and they are also paying the old prices.

It's pretty silent happiness over at the Hetzner camp.

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Post by tengwar2 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #141
tengwar2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit card is a largely fixed risk of financial loss, with some legal safeguards for recovery, and the ability to get a replacement card with a different number. Passport carries an open long-term risk of impersonation and you can't just get a new passport because some company has a copy. Just the financial side of that risk can have much greater impact. Unless a company has a legal requirement to "know your custome…

> Unless a company has a legal requirement to "know your customer", e.g. a financial institution, this is a red flag. Germany also has legal KYC requirements for web hosting and most other things relating to telecommunications.

And if those requirements include the need to supply passport information, that's a reason not to host in Germany.

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Post by sarchertech »

colechristensen wrote: post #296
ryandvm wrote: post #280

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Personally, I can do more than I could before as the result of AI. Honestly I could "retire" to a senior level role and have AI do 90% of my work and nobody would know the difference. The benefits COULD hit by employers reducing everybody's hours. The blocker to this is the middle management disease where there's a class of people who spend 40+ hours a week in some kind of update meeting or another and that much talk…

I could “retire” to a senior level role and run at 10% capacity with zero AI use at a bigco and nobody would know the difference.

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Post by chrisandchris »

gdhkgdhkvff wrote: post #288
deepsun wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can reply to emails faster and so have more time for hobbies. /s

I’m very on the pro-ai side (check my comment history for proof), but this “ai will give us more free time” logic is seeming more and more patronizing (to be clear, I understand that you are being sarcastic haha). I was listening to a podcast a couple days ago and Brad Gerstner was on and mentioned that with how AI is boosting productivity that perhaps one member of a household would be able to start staying home fro…

Just as happened with the horse, with the car, with the steam machine, with the industrialization in general, ... oh wait, we still have to work 8-10 hours 5 days a week, times two, to make enough for a living.

So when exactly is this productivity going to hit that doubles my income?

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Post by rvnx »

marcosdumay wrote: post #277
colechristensen wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then? There are only so many trillion dollar IPOs out there. And then what next?

Then it's not their problem and the company can fail.

If you owe 1M USD, you have a problem. If you owe 100B USD, they have a problem.

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Post by Const-me »

pocksuppet wrote: post #226
surgical_fire wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I was told my whole life that capitalism solved everything through supply and demand magic. I wish I could say I am disappointed.

I was also told this. Why isn't it happening? Can some capitalists explain why capitalism isn't happening the way it's supposed to? Is it because of government regulations, do we need to deregulate?

“Is it because of government regulations, do we need to deregulate?”

Insufficient law enforcement. The same memory manufacturers already broke antimonopoly laws in the past, pleaded guilty. Apparently the fines were too small for these companies to care, and the people responsible were promoted instead of being punished. More information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal

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Post by chrisandchris »

nemomarx wrote: post #271
alberth wrote: post #266

I use to be a huge Hetzner fan but it doesn't appear they have launch any new hardware in the past 3-years. One of the reasons why I loved Hetzner so much is that you could always get the latest generation hardware ... but unless I have missed it - it seems like their hardware hasn't been refreshed in awhile. (Still really like them, just wish they had dedicated servers in the US as well) EDIT: maybe what I use in ha…

Is there a lot of new enterprise server hardware coming out lately? Consumer stuff has been stagnant with all the ram cost issues so I could see servers running into similar issues.

Proliant G12 was introduced end of 2024, and based on their previous lifecycle I guess they will at least last 3-5 years before a new line comes.

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Post by fuzzy2 »

nemomarx wrote: post #271
alberth wrote: post #266

I use to be a huge Hetzner fan but it doesn't appear they have launch any new hardware in the past 3-years. One of the reasons why I loved Hetzner so much is that you could always get the latest generation hardware ... but unless I have missed it - it seems like their hardware hasn't been refreshed in awhile. (Still really like them, just wish they had dedicated servers in the US as well) EDIT: maybe what I use in ha…

Is there a lot of new enterprise server hardware coming out lately? Consumer stuff has been stagnant with all the ram cost issues so I could see servers running into similar issues.

Hetzner is almost exclusively offering consumer-grade hardware.

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Post by theobreuerweil »

chrisandchris wrote: post #305
gdhkgdhkvff wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m very on the pro-ai side (check my comment history for proof), but this “ai will give us more free time” logic is seeming more and more patronizing (to be clear, I understand that you are being sarcastic haha). I was listening to a podcast a couple days ago and Brad Gerstner was on and mentioned that with how AI is boosting productivity that perhaps one member of a household would be able to start staying home fro…

Just as happened with the horse, with the car, with the steam machine, with the industrialization in general, ... oh wait, we still have to work 8-10 hours 5 days a week, times two, to make enough for a living. So when exactly is this productivity going to hit that doubles my income?

I guess the argument would go that your income is significantly higher in the sense that the quantity and complexity of stuff that you can afford now is vastly greater than 100 years ago (e.g. washing machines, cars, clothes, computers). I’m not that saying it’s making anyone happier, mind you
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