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Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#281
Well we are officially fucked. That's some increase, not angry against hetzner they might have been forced, but man is this sad.

I built a homelab before the crisis started which might allow me to survive this for the next few years.

But man am I sad about folks trying to build new projects.

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#284

This is just the reality of hardware costs now. RAM and Disk are scarce, prices have skyrocketed. I wonder how much leverage the hyperscalers like AWS/GCP/Azure have on their own supply chain to keep costs level in their clouds.

Or their margins were/are large enough that they are less hurt, and are instead attempting to weather the storm without touching pricing.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#285
post #193

I was shopping for this past weekend. I found a 16core 128gb-ram(1!) unit for 110€/month with a competitor. Crazy deal. I suspected it to be a mistake, but after 24 hours it actually came online. Runs very smooth.

Where??

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#286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems they have shifted by reducing the setup fees, and increasing the monthly costs. Monthly costs have gone up as well. Payroll has seen significant increases in Germany, construction has exploded far beyond inflation and, most importantly, electricity prices are still ridiculous due to merit-order and the refusal of splitting up Germany into multiple power pricing regions.

I remember the price increase that Hetzner did during 2022 because of the invasion in Ukraine. The said they will adjust the prices down when the electricity price reduced. Guess what? I am paying as a consumer about the same price as before 2022. Did Hetzner change their price down? Remember, the industrial price also dropped (and they also build out a large solar plant). No ... Ok, inflation? But those price increa…

The reasons really doesn't matter. As long as they are in top of price/performance/quality nobody will switch. Once they stop to be then people will think about it.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#287
It seems like what's missing here is lower cost plans, because the existing plans had been fairly affordable, but now they're basically triple.

The least expensive one seems to be CPX11, old price $6.99, new price $20.49. That's 2GB RAM, 40GB SSD. RAM and SSD are now much more expensive, fair enough, but maybe I don't need all that for my mostly-idle VM, so then where's the plan with ~0.67GB RAM and ~13GB SSD for the old price?

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#288

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You can reply to emails faster and so have more time for hobbies. /s

I’m very on the pro-ai side (check my comment history for proof), but this “ai will give us more free time” logic is seeming more and more patronizing (to be clear, I understand that you are being sarcastic haha).

I was listening to a podcast a couple days ago and Brad Gerstner was on and mentioned that with how AI is boosting productivity that perhaps one member of a household would be able to start staying home from work if they wanted. I shut off the podcast after that (to be fair, the podcast just seemed to be one massive SpaceX IPO pump).

It’s just so divorced from reality and every new advancement is just making *higher expectations for doing more work*.

The unfortunate reality is: Companies that are selling ai will sell that ai will make life easier. Companies that are buying ai will demand more from employees using ai (why else would they buy it?).

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#289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a market shock. The reason it doesn't alleviate sooner is the chip manufacturers are very wary of investing billions on capacity that won't come online until after the shock is over and subsequently going bankrupt. Because that's happened before. IF IT LASTS, capacity will increase. But it won't last. The AI boom is in exponential growth but it's based on heavy speculation about future value and the bubble wi…

> the free investor money does run out I've been saying the same thing, but that's why they made the move to IPO, no?

The money always runs out. The dot com bust (Nina Brink forever!) and more recently "let's give a homeless man a 250k mortgage" 2008 bust.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I was told my whole life that capitalism solved everything through supply and demand magic. I wish I could say I am disappointed.

What they conveniently leave out is that it sometimes takes over a decade for a correction

The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent
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